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  • Bogusdogs
    • Sep 2019
    • 61

    • WA


    What are you using for a waxer/polisher tool?

    I see that there are so many out there. Is there one that seems to work well, that has variable speeds, that is decent for the do it yourselfer?
  • Calisdad
    • Jul 2017
    • 20

    • Dallas, Oregon

    • 98 Ski Nautique

    #2
    muscle

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    • SilentSeven
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 1831

      • Bellevue WA

      • 2004 Nautique 206

      #3
      This guy.

      https://www.harborfreight.com/7-in-1...her-62297.html

      Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

      2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
      1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
      1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
      Bellevue WA

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      • 03SANTE
        • Sep 2018
        • 166

        • PA

        • 2003 SANTE

        #4
        I will second the orbital buffer from Harbor Freight. I paired it with the Meguiars marine/RV restoration system (3 bottles) and it did wonders on my black hull with no swirling. I had some bad oxidation when I bought the boat and doing it by hand was not an option.

        I would recommend getting some better polishing/waxing pads however as I bought ones at HF and they fell apart quickly. And a good wool cutting pad if your oxidation is bad. Otherwise just foam pads for the polish and wax.
        Last edited by 03SANTE; 03-01-2020, 03:30 PM.

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        • bturner
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jun 2019
          • 1562

          • MI

          • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

          #5
          15 year old 7424 Porter Cable.

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          • SilentSeven
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 1831

            • Bellevue WA

            • 2004 Nautique 206

            #6
            Originally posted by bturner View Post
            15 year old 7424 Porter Cable.
            I also have one of these. They are awesome...especially for waxing and finish work where you don't want swirls. A high speed rotatory polisher with a wool bonnet is the trick for cutting. But you do need to be careful lest you burn through something (decal, paint, maybe even gelcoat...)
            2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
            1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
            1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
            Bellevue WA

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            • bturner
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jun 2019
              • 1562

              • MI

              • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

              #7
              For the most part I've moved away from a rotary wheel and prefer to rely on wet sanding, typically with a series of 1000, 1500 then 2000. Once I have the area blocked out I finish with the 3 step 3M Perfect It products using Yellow, Orange then White foam pads matching the abrasion levels of the Perfect Product. Apply a quality marine past wax like Flagship with a clean White pad and remove with Grey. Turns out exceptional every time.

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              • jtryon
                • Jun 2011
                • 239

                • CT

                • 2007 Centurion Typhoon

                #8
                Originally posted by bturner View Post
                For the most part I've moved away from a rotary wheel and prefer to rely on wet sanding, typically with a series of 1000, 1500 then 2000. Once I have the area blocked out I finish with the 3 step 3M Perfect It products using Yellow, Orange then White foam pads matching the abrasion levels of the Perfect Product. Apply a quality marine past wax like Flagship with a clean White pad and remove with Grey. Turns out exceptional every time.
                are you wet sanding by hand?

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                • jjackkrash
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • May 2007
                  • 498

                  • PacNW

                  • 2021 Ski

                  #9
                  I use a collection of Rupes buffers, including a Rotary, Mille, Bigfoot 21, Mini, and Nano. If I had to pick one for the boat it would be the Mille, which is a gear-driven forced orbital. It can do most of the heavy work of a rotary without leaving holograms. If it is really bad, though, you want a rotary with wool pads or even Trizact (3M) wet sanding discs and then some sort of orbital to take the holograms out for the finish work.

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                  • jjackkrash
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2007
                    • 498

                    • PacNW

                    • 2021 Ski

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Calisdad View Post
                    muscle
                    Electric engines have a lot more torque.

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                    • SilentSeven
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 1831

                      • Bellevue WA

                      • 2004 Nautique 206

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjackkrash View Post
                      I use a collection of Rupes buffers, including a Rotary, Mille, Bigfoot 21, Mini, and Nano. If I had to pick one for the boat it would be the Mille, which is a gear-driven forced orbital. It can do most of the heavy work of a rotary without leaving holograms. If it is really bad, though, you want a rotary with wool pads or even Trizact (3M) wet sanding discs and then some sort of orbital to take the holograms out for the finish work.
                      One of these? Sexy!

                      https://www.amazon.com/Detail-LK900E.../dp/B07C66JKZ3
                      2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
                      1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
                      1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
                      Bellevue WA

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                      • jjackkrash
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • May 2007
                        • 498

                        • PacNW

                        • 2021 Ski

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SilentSeven View Post
                        Yup. It's the bees knees. It gives you most of the cutting power of a rotary but doesn't leave holograms. It works well on all but the toughest gelcoat jobs and I can use it on paint without the same risks of burning through the clear that comes with a rotary. And it powers through rounded surfaces and corners without stalling like a random orbital will stall. (Its German counterpart is the Flex 3401).

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                        • bturner
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Jun 2019
                          • 1562

                          • MI

                          • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jtryon View Post

                          are you wet sanding by hand?
                          Absolutely. I basically divide the areas I'm working in into 3'x3' sections if they're large and flat and if not I make them smaller depending on how intricate they are. On the transom for example I'll do a 1'x1' section. It's not something you can hurry but at the same time it's not something you have to do all at once either.

                          Also avoid wet sanding without a sanding block or some sort of pad between the paper and your fingers as it's easy to put groves into the surface with your fingers. This is why I refer to this as blocking a lot of times. For most areas I'll wrap my paper in a small rubber block like this....

                          https://www.amazon.com/3M-Wetordry-R...3235034&sr=8-7

                          or depending on the area I'm working I'll use a foam pad like one of the ones listed with this items listed with it as frequently purchased items. You can get crazy with this stuff depending on how deep you want to go but based on my experience with boats those three pads should be about all you need for 90% of the sanding you'll do on a boat.

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                          • pauldixon
                            • Oct 2022
                            • 21

                            • British Columbia

                            • 2014 SN 200 Team OB 6.0L

                            #14
                            I'll add my system for reference.

                            I use a Festool rotary sander (5") for wetsanding. If its bad, I go down to 320 grit then to 600, 1000.
                            Then I use a Makita 9237C 7" Polisher set to around 2500rpm with a 3M 05711 Blended Wool Compounding pad and 3M 06044 Imperial Compound and Finishing paste
                            After this, I switch to 3M 05733 Perfect-It Ultrafine Foam Polishing Pad with 3m Perfect-it polish
                            After this I switch to 3M 05738 perfect it Foam polishing pad with wax.

                            You need to be careful with the wool pad and a rotary sander but you can't beat the speed and power.

                            This works wonders for me. I tried getting scratches out before with smaller polishers and not using true wool pads and it took me forever and didn't do a good job. Its expensive to get setup but once you are you will get many polishes and compounds done wiht this setup.




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