A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is......

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  • jwhposon
    • Mar 2005
    • 159

    • Oregon


    A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is......

    I have a SAN 210 2004. I sometimes experience a free spin of the prop (maybe) or the transmission or V-drive. I have not been able to determine where it comes from. It happens only in a turn - generally when I am pulling a tube while ocilating the throttle. I will get this deep lurge or surge - almost sounds like the prop hit wood or something, but no damage there. Everytime it does happen it is only seconds and then it goes back to normal. Is there any way I can test this?


    I do have a leak in my V-drive - maybe.

    I had to change my fluids - tranny and v-drive a awhile back and i was thinking it had something to do with my fluids.

    Anybody help?

    Jason
  • surroundsound64
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 2147

    • Longview, TX

    • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

    #2
    RE: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is..

    Do you have the factory prop on it? I don't know much about this... but at a certain RPM (depending on the pitch) I think the prop will develop a pocket of air... or something other than water around it, and the prop will just spin.
    2018 SAN 230
    1981 Ski Nautique
    Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
    Sold - 2000 SAN

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    • Mikeski
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2908

      • San Francisco, CA

      • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

      #3
      RE: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is..

      Gasp... tubing behind a 210, should be illegal.

      It is probably cavitation, check if you are have pits on the backside of the prop blades. If the tranny fluid is low it can slip in the turns, the oil in the V-drive is just for lubrication, it won't slip but it will burn up.

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      • Onthewater
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jul 2003
        • 695

        • Near the cheddar curtain


        #4
        RE: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is..

        If you aren't turning hard it probably isn't breaking loose, is this a straight line in decent water slip or in heavy chop?
        I don\'t care.

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        • Hollywood
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Sep 2003
          • 1930

          • WIIL


          #5
          Re: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it is..

          Originally posted by jwhposon
          It happens only in a turn - generally when I am pulling a tube while ocilating the throttle.

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          • ag4ever
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Feb 2004
            • 1180



            #6
            RE: Re: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it

            Cavitation. Happens to me when pulling tubes behing my SANTE.

            BTW, my wife was pulling me and a bud on a 2 man tube. She was actually able to launch the boat out of the water. All we saw before being thrown was the entire hull out of the water with the prop spinning.

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            • surroundsound64
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2005
              • 2147

              • Longview, TX

              • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

              #7
              RE: Re: A lurch a surge or a slip -- please tell me what it

              Wait.. so someone explain what cavitation is exactly... Pitting in the back side of the prop? How does that cause slipping?

              This is interesting.
              2018 SAN 230
              1981 Ski Nautique
              Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
              Sold - 2000 SAN

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              • jthooker
                • Jun 2005
                • 68

                • Mansfield, OH


                #8
                Boaters often use the word “cavitation” to describe what is actually “ventilation”, which sounds like what Jason is experiencing. When a power boat abruptly looses forward thrust in a turn and the engine revs up it is almost always ventilation. This occurs when air is channeled under the hull to the prop or the prop rises too close to the surface of the water. A good example of this is when we do a power turn in a ski boat, the prop grabs air (ventilates), looses its thrust, and the boat immediately heels down in the water. Ventilation can also occur during less severe turns depending on factors such as total load, load placement, point of tow rope attachment, and direction of turn versus direction of prop rotation. If you Google “prop cavitation” you will find a number of articles and technical discussions about the subject.

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                • surroundsound64
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2147

                  • Longview, TX

                  • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                  #9
                  Ah.... Maybe that's what I remember hearing about.
                  2018 SAN 230
                  1981 Ski Nautique
                  Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                  Sold - 2000 SAN

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