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  • Bogusdogs
    • Sep 2019
    • 61

    • WA


    V-Drive leaking...replace?

    I had my '14 SAN230 winterized and they said there was a leak in the V-drive. One suggestion was to replace it ($4800 parts/labor) or run it another season topping it off as needed. Thoughts? It wasn't an issue at the start of the season or last season...but we put on 120 hours this year...mostly wakesurfing with a big crew.
  • Stevemo14
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Apr 2019
    • 691

    • Columbus, OH

    • 2005 Super Air 210 Team; 1960 Chris Craft 18' Continental

    #2
    Where is it leaking from, and do you know why its leaking from there?

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    • Bogusdogs
      • Sep 2019
      • 61

      • WA


      #3
      Originally posted by Stevemo14 View Post
      Where is it leaking from, and do you know why its leaking from there?
      Supposedly from the bottom? And no, I don't know why. They said that it would require taking the whole thing out and they don't rebuild them only replace.

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      • Stevemo14
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2019
        • 691

        • Columbus, OH

        • 2005 Super Air 210 Team; 1960 Chris Craft 18' Continental

        #4
        If there is a crack in the housing then it might need replaced. There is always the tried and true JB Weld to Fill the Crack also if that's the case. If you ran it all year with no issues I would try that.

        If its just a seal, then I would think you can find someone to replace the seal.

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        • Bogusdogs
          • Sep 2019
          • 61

          • WA


          #5
          Originally posted by Stevemo14 View Post
          If there is a crack in the housing then it might need replaced. There is always the tried and true JB Weld to Fill the Crack also if that's the case. If you ran it all year with no issues I would try that.

          If its just a seal, then I would think you can find someone to replace the seal.
          Thanks! I will see what they say when I pick it up...if there is a crack or just seal. It seemed they only knew there was a leak, but ddin't know from where. The level was low and there was residue in the bottom of the boat I suspect.

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          • bturner
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jun 2019
            • 1571

            • MI

            • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

            #6
            I'm reading more and more crazy stories about drive train issues with heavy surf loads so this really doesn't surprise me. On the MC forum there were 2 separate threads on damper plates coming apart.

            As to this one I certainly believe the loading is becoming an issue and quite possibly was the root cause. As to when to replace, I personally would do it now at the end of the season and have a fresh vDrive in the boat for the spring. 2 factors here.....
            • The first is if this does get worse (and I doubt it'll sty the same or get better) say in mid to late June or July, how long do you think you'll be without a boat in peak season while you're in the queue for repair?
            • The second is where do you think all that thick oil or trans fluid is going to end up? If your bilge pump comes on with that oil/fluid in the bilge you're going to be pumping it directly into the lake which is not cool on any level. It'll also sit in the bilge with your pumps and oil is not good for plastic covered wiring or the pumps themselves.
            On the other hand if we're talking slight seeping that you can wipe off the side of the vDrive at the end of the day and not an actual leak then I see no real reason to be in a hurry. The topping off comment is what has me concerned.

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            • Bogusdogs
              • Sep 2019
              • 61

              • WA


              #7
              Originally posted by bturner View Post
              I'm reading more and more crazy stories about drive train issues with heavy surf loads so this really doesn't surprise me. On the MC forum there were 2 separate threads on damper plates coming apart.

              As to this one I certainly believe the loading is becoming an issue and quite possibly was the root cause. As to when to replace, I personally would do it now at the end of the season and have a fresh vDrive in the boat for the spring. 2 factors here.....
              • The first is if this does get worse (and I doubt it'll sty the same or get better) say in mid to late June or July, how long do you think you'll be without a boat in peak season while you're in the queue for repair?
              • The second is where do you think all that thick oil or trans fluid is going to end up? If your bilge pump comes on with that oil/fluid in the bilge you're going to be pumping it directly into the lake which is not cool on any level. It'll also sit in the bilge with your pumps and oil is not good for plastic covered wiring or the pumps themselves.
              On the other hand if we're talking slight seeping that you can wipe off the side of the vDrive at the end of the day and not an actual leak then I see no real reason to be in a hurry. The topping off comment is what has me concerned.
              Thanks for the info...makes sense. I was worried that it would clog up the bilge as well. But ultimately dumping in to the lake doesn't sit well with me either. I wasn't sure if $4800 was the industry standard or just what it costs. They said 12 hours labor. That sounds like a pretty big job. And I agree, it doesn't seem like something that will remedy itself.

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              • bturner
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jun 2019
                • 1571

                • MI

                • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

                #8
                A new vDrive from Discount Inboard Marine is $2400....

                https://www.skidim.com/products.asp?dept=1140

                Pulling a vDrive out and replacing it is priceless if you've never done it before and don't have the tools or place to do it. You also have the alignment to do once you've replaced it. I will say 12 hours does sound like a lot of labor for a shop that I would think has done several of these and has all the tools. That said I've never personally done one so there's that too. Read too many threads where people tell you how easy something is to do only to find out they've never personally done it themselves.

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                • Bogusdogs
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 61

                  • WA


                  #9
                  I would never attempt it...that's for sure. But $2800 is what they quoted the part for and about $2000 for labor. I know it's a HUGE job, but just wasn't sure of what people were seeing, or have paid, for this.

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                  • gonefishin5555
                    • May 2018
                    • 114

                    • SoCal

                    • 2017 GS22

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bogusdogs View Post
                    I had my '14 SAN230 winterized and they said there was a leak in the V-drive. One suggestion was to replace it ($4800 parts/labor) or run it another season topping it off as needed. Thoughts? It wasn't an issue at the start of the season or last season...but we put on 120 hours this year...mostly wakesurfing with a big crew.
                    I lean toward replacing it right now. If It was me I would clean the vdrive up and go run the boat for an hour and see if I could determine how much was leaking and from where. But likely this would not be very conclusive. It seems impossible to do any meaningful fix without removing it and the shop doesn’t want to risk doing a quick fix when that much labor is involved so replace it and move on

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                    • Bogusdogs
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 61

                      • WA


                      #11
                      Ya, I would agree. I had it winterized and they said they will do it in the winter/spring because they are so backed up with boats right now. So, I have time to build up my repair fund.

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                      • Super Dave
                        • Aug 2019
                        • 47

                        • LA

                        • 94 Ski Nautique 196 351 GT40

                        #12
                        I just did mine and it was my 1st time doing anything mechanically that involved. Wasn’t a V-drive, which I’m sure is more difficult, but it didn’t take 12 hours to swap out. As a novice, I would say it took me ~6 hours. Also, if you haven’t, check all the hoses and their connections. After installing mine, I had a small leak at one of the transmission hoses going to the transmission cooler. Luckily, I was able to remove, added some Teflon tape and tightened. That solved the leak. Could be a cracked fitting at one of the lines or puncture in a hose.


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