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  • Payton1
    • Aug 2018
    • 42

    • Raleigh, NC

    • 2008 Nautique 220 TE. Piggyback ballast, Acme 1235, Fresh Air Exhaust, Seadek, Hot shower!

    Install of aftermarket NSS on 2008 220TE

    Allright, here it goes. I purchased an aftermarket NSS from max 1.6 and started the install this weekend. Thanks to the other forum members nautique Fan, krt, @Anson for the tips.

    Thought I would share my experience:

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    Removed my aftermarket Wakemakers bags
    Removed engine divider panels
    Removed carpet over hard tanks
    Loosened hard talks with a ratchet. Loosen the bolt which is otherwise hard to see but is in the engine side of the divider panel remaining at the back of the boat, at the bottom. It screws into the tank. After that is loose, you can slide the tank about 12" forward without removing it.
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    Remove swim platform - three pins, some WD40 on the dovetails, and two guys shaking and lifting.
    Then, the fun part. Hold the surf system base plate against the transom so that the metal frame is about 1/8 in from the edge of the boat. You don't want it to obstruct water flow. Have a friend tape it into place.

    After the taping. Then, the horrible part

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    Drill the holes through the taped plate so the alignment is perfect. Start running the drill bit in reverse for a few seconds to go through the clearcoat, and then switch to forward. It's frightening how fast you will drill right through the fiberglass transom. It's a horrible feeling.
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    here's the boat after the holes are done, with the plate removed. The two holes on the far left both needed to be lag bolts on mine. Originally I expected the top left one to be through, but it was still below the engine mount fiberglass, so we ended up re-filling it with epoxy, and then drilling it smaller for a lag bolt.

    The next step, I used a box cutter and removed the carpet from the inside wall of the transom so I had access to the fiberglass where the holes were, so I could goop them up good with 3M 4200 (white stuff in below photo). Not all new bolts are visible in the photo. The other three (?) older boats are the swim platform. Note that this means that one of the 4 bolts on the outside of the swim platform bracket is just decorative for some reason..
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    Insert the 4200 into the holes, and put the bolts through. On the inside, I gooped up the inside of the washers good, put them on the bolts, then the locking nut. Tightened them up from the outside. I make them snug but not super tight - not sure what the right tightness is/was - I was afraid of cracking the fiberglass over tightening. Don't forget to use the spacers to allow the flat plate to conform to the hull shape. The 4200 pressed out from around the washer and bolt on the inside after they were tight. We then let the 4200 harden overnight.

    Next step was to modify the swim platform - it needed a spacer to clear the new surf tabs.
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    Spacer was a 1x2 block of aluminum tube. To get the old bracket off, I needed WD40 and an impact driver. The, I lined up the holes and drilled the bracket, and inserted the longer screws. Note the screws weren't coming out of the platform with my power screwdriver, it looked like I was going to just strip the heads, but the impact driver worked wonders, they all came right out. Note my message down at the bottom where I found out later that I actually needed to add an extra 1/4" of spacing also.


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    We then put the swim platform back, positioned the sliding plate, and the actuator, to check clearance and figure out where to drill the hole for the wire. Turns out, my swim platform in this photo was not down all the way, and it actually touches the plate about 1/8". I could add some washers, but I might just leave it and grind the fiberglass on the corner to make it fit. Not done yet.....

    We decided to run the wire up over the swim platform bracket and in around the other side. More to come on that.

    We also started to figure out the wiring. I put the control box up under the dash, and it was easy to run the actuator wires back along the channel where the throttle cable goes. They come out by the trash bin and then back along the hard tanks to the actuators. You could run them a few different ways.
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    Since my radio remote was dead anyway, and we just use bluetooth, my son used his 3D printer to print a cool new insert for the surf tab controls to replace the radio remote.
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    << not done yet - more to come as the job is finished >>


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  • MN Ryan
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 1250

    • Maple Grove, MN

    • 2007 SV-211 TE

    #2
    Oh my. Very cool but daunting! I wouldn't have the guts to do it. I hope it turns out for you. It looks like you're doing a nice job!

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

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    • shag
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2217

      • Florida


      #3
      Max makes a great kit! I am going on 4 years? with m one on a 2008 230. Drilling a gazillion holes in the boat is well, scary..

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      • krt
        • Sep 2008
        • 231

        • La Verne

        • 2008 210 SAN TE

        #4
        Looks like it went well. Does the 220 require a spacer between the swim step and the bracket vs just moving it out?
        2008 SAN 210 TE
        1997 Ski Brendella (sold)

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        • Spud
          • Jul 2006
          • 217

          • Echuca Australia

          • 2007 206 limited 2008 206 limited 2007 196 se 2010 200 team

          #5
          I cant wait to get one of these kits for our 2008 210 from Max 1.6

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          • max 1.6
            • Oct 2014
            • 284

            • Canada

            • 2009 Nautique 230

            #6
            Originally posted by Payton1 View Post
            Allright, here it goes. I purchased an aftermarket NSS from max 1.6 and started the install this weekend. Thanks to the other forum members nautique Fan, krt, @Anson for the tips.

            Wow!!
            Awesome write-up

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            • Payton1
              • Aug 2018
              • 42

              • Raleigh, NC

              • 2008 Nautique 220 TE. Piggyback ballast, Acme 1235, Fresh Air Exhaust, Seadek, Hot shower!

              #7
              krt - I could have moved the platform out further instead of using a spacer to raise it higher. We'll try higher first, if I don't like that, I will just move it out further. I recall seeing a post that moving it out results in water splashing up through the gap which I wanted to avoid. It'd been raining cats and dogs here so I haven't had a chance to finish connecting the power to actually test it!

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              • krt
                • Sep 2008
                • 231

                • La Verne

                • 2008 210 SAN TE

                #8
                Originally posted by Payton1 View Post
                krt - I could have moved the platform out further instead of using a spacer to raise it higher. We'll try higher first, if I don't like that, I will just move it out further. I recall seeing a post that moving it out results in water splashing up through the gap which I wanted to avoid. It'd been raining cats and dogs here so I haven't had a chance to finish connecting the power to actually test it!
                I think I did see someone on a 230 did the spacers. I have not had any issues with the water splashing up through the gap, that would be a bummer.
                2008 SAN 210 TE
                1997 Ski Brendella (sold)

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                • Payton1
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 42

                  • Raleigh, NC

                  • 2008 Nautique 220 TE. Piggyback ballast, Acme 1235, Fresh Air Exhaust, Seadek, Hot shower!

                  #9
                  Next updates:

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                  Finally finished the last bit today. So, I had some issues originally because I was testing it with a wire gauge that was too small and it was not working. The system just clicked and did nothing and I was worried I had messed something up. Max reminded me it would not work unless the system could get enough power. I ended up running 12 gauge wires directly from the main power - unscrew the four outside screws on the fusebox in the driver's foot well and it is easy access. It actually works pretty well because you can just use a crimp ring wire connector and add another nut to the screw that already has the main power on it. I added a 15A inline blade fuse, and that seems to be sufficient. I wired the yellow to the "heater" button on my dash, which has its own wire harness. Since I don't have a heater, it works fine for an off/on button for the system. Also since my my radio remote died, put the switches in the former remote panel. FYI for those of you that might be interested, the Clarion M608 swaps out exactly for the old Clarion CMD5 that came with some of these boats. Same screw hole pattern, same wiring harness. Built in bluetooth and syncs with Pandora, etc, you don't need a remote if you stream music from your phone.
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                  Above is my custom switch panel. This is before I trimmed the length of the rotary switch shaft on the right and put the dial on it.
                  Below are final images of the plates in retracted and extended position. It doesn't stick out nearly as much as my Mission Delta, not sure how that will affect the wake. We'll see how the surf wake compares if I can get out on the lake Monday.

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                  Also, it turns out that the 1" spacer was NOT enough to lift the swim platform and the top of my plates rubbed just a tiny bit. I ended up cutting and drilling a 1/4" sheet of polycarbonate and adding that also, so in total I lifted the swim platform 1.25". Maybe I installed my plates too high, but I also suspect that the tolerances on all of these boats are just a little different and my platform was just a hair lower than Max had spec'd out.

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                  And, one last photo after cleaning up the mess to remind everyone how Seadek looks awesome and can make a 13 year old boat look almost new!

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                  • hal2814
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 541

                    • Ft Worth, TX

                    • 2022 G23, Previous: 2021 GS24, 2011 Super Air Nautique 230, 1995 Super Sport, 1983 Ski Nautique

                    #10
                    A note on spacers vs moving backwards. We put Max’s kit on a 2011 230 and a 2010 210 a few weeks ago. The 2011 uses the new 2-bracket system that’s already up higher. Even with that it still had to move out slightly (less than 1/4”). There was no contact issue with the deck on but it was close enough that we didn’t have clearance to put the swim deck on unless we put on the brackets and then bolted it. The 210 kit didn’t come with spacers. The instructions there were to just move it back. We’ve been out several times on both boats and haven’t had splash issues.

                    Moving the deck back on the brackets was easily the hardest part of this whole project. The screws don’t want to come out of the old plate. Almost half of them broke. They stripped and sometimes broke going into the new holes. If you do this kit and you’re struggling with that part, find some stainless bolts and use a tap and drill and tap new holes. You’ll be glad you did. It’s my understanding not everyone is having this issue but we did with both boats.

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                    • Leemer
                      • Feb 2024
                      • 15

                      • Seattle, WA


                      #11
                      Talk about a nerve-wracking install. Better you than me. But seriously, good on you for taking this on.

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