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  • Surfer360
    • Aug 2023
    • 1

    • Los Angeles

    • G23 Paragon 200 OB

    G23 Paragon Issue

    Is anyone else encountering challenges with their G23 Paragon? I acquired a demo boat that granted me the opportunity to secure a new vessel at a discounted price. Regrettably, my experience has been fraught with numerous problems:

    1. The dealership from which I made the purchase failed to address a recall issued in September of 2021, despite my acquisition of the boat in December of 2022. This oversight resulted in catastrophic engine failure, necessitating a complete engine replacement (fortunately covered by warranty).

    2. I consistently experience excessive bilge activity, even though the boat is not overloaded. The absence of a bilge pump at the rear of the engine bay is perplexing. In my case, there are two pumps located in the center, positioned staggered—one near the cooler and the other at the engine's outset.

    3. Persistent leaks are originating from three of the ballast pumps, all constructed from metal, not piping.

    4. A perplexing leak is emerging from the stern of the boat in the engine bay area. It's important to note that the boat has never been beached and has never sustained any impacts. It spends its time while not in operation on a lift.

    5. There's an ongoing issue where the connections for the "raw water" intake to cool the engine disconnect every other day. This necessitates constant vigilance on my part to monitor and reestablish the connections.

    6. The power steering intermittently operates erratically, occasionally ceasing to function properly.

    7. most recently upon cold start-up, there is a disconcerting shudder experienced through the steering wheel, persisting for approximately 30 seconds.

    To preclude attributing these difficulties to user error, I must emphasize that I predominantly use the boat for surfing. We consistently employ the stock ballast to its maximum capacity and frequently accommodate varying passenger loads, ranging from 2 to 16 individuals. My history with boats includes ownership of around 5 Nautique models, including a 211 with well over 1,500 hours of operation and a 200 with more than 750 hours. Despite putting approximately 200 hours on our surf boat during our abbreviated northern summers, I've never encountered such an extensive litany of issues with a boat purchase. I meticulously conduct routine oil changes every 45 hours and diligently inspect fluids every other fill-up.​
  • xrichard
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Aug 2008
    • 669

    • El Dorado Hills

    • 2023 G23

    #2
    I don't have a Paragon, but your point #2 seems to be normal for the boats that have transom seats (as does my G23). When you slow down, water climbs onto these seats and excess water drains into the bilge. On my 2015, my bilge stayed pretty dry. On my 2023, the pumps operate frequently because of the seat drains.

    I'm not really clear about your description on item 3. Are the leaks coming from the plate that covers the impellers or from hose connections or the hoses themselves? I'm not sure what you meant re: constructed from metal, not piping.

    I'm also not clear on item 4. Are you sure it's a leak and, if so, exactly where is it coming from? I'm wondering if it could be rear seat drainage.

    Item 5--are you saying the raw water pump loses prime? Or hoses are coming off? If you're losing prime and getting too hot at low rpms, this is often an issue with a leak at the sea strainer.
    Previous boats:
    2015 G23
    2008 SAN 210
    2002 XStar
    1995 Sport Nautique

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    • MikeC
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2007
      • 535

      • Georgia

      • 1999 Ski Nautique (Python powered) 2017 GS22 (sold) 2005 SV211 (sold)

      #3
      My first thought would be loose fittings due to the engine change. In the factory the engine is installed before the deck is attached to the hull. I wonder if while working in tight spaces during the engine change some clamps weren't tightened or maybe simply not attached well. Other than that, I second XRichard's comments.

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