Jabsco Ballast Pumps…

[Boats Bros]

None of the ballast pumps on my 2009 210 are working, I have the Jabsco pumps. I popped the covers off and took out the impellers hoping they were stuck or jammed, but the shaft still did not move when turned on. The port side pump dims the lights when trying to turn on. Has anybody taken these apart and cleaned them? Are there affordable replacements, at $300 a pop it hurts when you have to replace all 3. Anybody have the wiring diagram handy?

[SatherG230]

Have you tried to manually turn the shafts to check if the motors are stuck?

[bturner]

Those pumps are pretty bullet proof so having one go completely bad would be rare. To have 3 bad pump motors at once? That's really unheard of unless someone swapped in bad pumps before you bought the boat. Most failures I've experienced with them have been seal leaks at the pump head seal, not motor failures.

IMO, it's time to.....

• Check the breakers to see if any have popped. This is the low hanging fruit that you don't need tools for.
• Check the wiring at the switches to make sure nothing got disconnected. Again, no tools required.
• Get the meter out and start at one end or the other looking for voltages. I like to start at the switches as you should have power there all the time at the power switch feed. Get the wiring diagram out and find the power feed going to the switch. Do you have power? If yes, go to the other side of the switch and look there. If no, you know your problem is still up stream. If yes, then check power at the motor.
• The other direction to take would be to remove one of the pumps and put power directly to the motor. This will definitely tell you quickly where the problem is or isn't. If it spins, start trouble shooting upstream.

If I recall this was a project boat right? I know you had some posts on a saltwater trailer, was this a saltwater boat? If so, all my statements from above are probably incorrect. In the saltwater world everything that moves freezes, anything that doesn't rusts, those that can't rust discolor, dry out, get brittle and crack. A ballast system pumping saltwater would be prone to complete failure in short order. So if this is a saltwater boat, I wouldn't doubt that all the pumps are shot.

[MN Ryan]

My BIL had one lock up on his X10 last summer. He tore it apart--I have pics somewhere, but I can't find them. It was rusted (100% freshwater boat). His plan was to clean it up and rebuild it, but I think that has gone the way of most of his projects.

[bturner]

Depending on how the pumps were installed this is not that uncommon. If the pump is mounted vertically with the pump head above the motor and the pump in the seal lets loose, the water leaking out of the pump head goes directly into the motor. Ask me how I know this.....

[swatguy]

Nautique uses a great location for the pumps to prevent leakage from destroying a pump , as mentioned it’s would be rare to have all 3 go at once ,have you tried hooking them go an outside power source ?

the Johnson pumps are pretty much identical come
i. Little cheaper and wakemakers has their own brand as well. I had one go bad , I took it to my local alternator shop that specializes in those electric motors. 60 bucks for them to rebuild the motor.

[MN Ryan]

If the pump is mounted vertically with the pump head above the motor and the pump in the seal lets loose, the water leaking out of the pump head goes directly into the motor.

This is exactly what happened to his. He flipped them over when he replaced the one.

[bturner]

On my 2016 200 Sport 2 are mount with the head down and 1 is mounted with the head over the motor.

[bcd]

https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/for...t-pump?t=42810

Check out post #10. Mine were intermittently not working. This fixed them for the few years I had the boat after that.

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[bturner]

Wow, post #12 is mine from 2011. Hard to believe that was 12 years ago now.

[Boats Bros]

I have tried turning the shafts and they are seized, I’m thinking they need to be taken apart if not replaced. Sucks for a boat that has less than 150 hours on it.
Yes it was a brackwater boat, a few things show signs of rust/corrosion, but not much. I’ve ran her a couple times since I’ve brought it to fresh water and seems to run fine, but not using the ballast on a boat like this is no fun.
Picture below shows how the pumps are mounted on a 2009

[bturner]

The pump heads in that picture look way different corrosion wise than the ones in my boat or even the ones in the 07 X2 I sold. Even the decals on the engine cover look to be pitted and there's rust where the mounting bolts were. I have a spare good pump motor (at least I'm almost positive it's still good) just sitting on a shelf in the garage (picture below) that you're welcome to but it may be cheaper to buy new versus shipping. That and there's probably a real good chance that it's the bearing in the pump that are the issue as that's where the saltwater has been living.

I know you're trying to finish out the season but you may want to take a weekend and start wiping everything down with WD40 or some type of saltwater wash product. This is what mine looks like after being in my 07 X2 for about 12 years and used for 450 hours.....

[jpwhit]

It's never seemed worth it to me to try and fix these pumps. And that from someone that usually prefers to fix or rebuild thing over replace. I've always been able to consistently find either the Jabsco or Johnson pumps for well under $200 new. And as other's have said, they are pretty much interchangeable. Often to get them for cheap, you do have to install the right connector yourself. But that's really simple if you just buy a connector parts kit from Amazon and a pretty cheap crimper for the pins. Given this boat has been in salt water, I'd just replace all the pumps and be done with it. I just did a quick google search and here's an example of the Johnson Pumps for $168 with free shipping.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32473030172...gaAsBIEALw_wcB

[Scooter G]

Wow, post #12 is mine from 2011. Hard to believe that was 12 years ago now.

It's like digging up a time capsule. Circles back around one day on PN, pretty cool!

Good find jpwhit

[Boats Bros]

bturner jpwhit exactly as you thought, the bearing was the culprit. I ripped all 3 apart and they all had the same problem, the bearing was seized up. Some penetration oil and motor oil and they all freeded up! Bench tested them and they all work. I know they won’t last forever but they seem like they will work for now! New impellers and lake testing it tomorrow.