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  • fattymrm999
    • Mar 2007
    • 19

    • Denver, CO

    • 2006 SANTE 210

    Engine stalls when I hit a large wake/wave

    I have an 06 SANTE 210 which runs perfect in every way except when I hit a large wave the engine stalls. This happened about 5 times the other day. The engine does not shut off completely. It still is running however and all the guages appear normal, but it has no throttle control. The only way to regain trottle control is to shut off the engine and restart it. It seems like the throttle linkage comes loose, but I believe these things are drive by wire so there is no physical linkage to come loose. Has this happened to anybody? Any recommendations?

    Thanks.
  • OKWAKEBDR
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2005
    • 750

    • Lakefront

    • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

    #2
    RE: Engine stalls when I hit a large wake/wave

    I've had this happen before on my '05, but only when I hit VERY large waves REALLY hard...maybe once or twice each summer.

    I'm not sure what causes it. The boat will usually return to normal in a couple of seconds. Sometimes I'll have to restart the boat for the speedometer to reset though.
    Current: 2017 G23
    Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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    • surroundsound64
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 2147

      • Longview, TX

      • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

      #3
      RE: Engine stalls when I hit a large wake/wave

      Sounds like a bad electrical connection. My guess (and I don't know a whole lot about the drive by wire stuff in the CCs) would be that there is a safety device built in that senses any sort of control loss and when you hit a big wave it bounces the boat enough to either connect or disconnect an electrical contact.

      I'd probably start checking wires near the throttle control. Or better yet, it being an 06 and guessing it is still under warranty, take it to the dealer.
      2018 SAN 230
      1981 Ski Nautique
      Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
      Sold - 2000 SAN

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      • knowscc
        • Mar 2007
        • 18



        #4
        Check the connections at the safety lanyard. Also, check the toggle switch connections at the on/off/bilge switch on the throttle panel.

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        • triplered
          • Jan 2005
          • 31

          • Ramsey, MN

          • 1986 Ski Nautique 1996 Ski Nautique 176

          #5
          Good suggestions listed above about checking eletrical connections.
          If the problem is on the boat side it will be probably be isolated to loose or shorted wiring in the ignition circuit, kill switch, or grahill box. It's possible that you've got a loose connection at the throttle Control Position Sensor or Throttle Actuator Control. A sensor could also be bad.

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          • fattymrm999
            • Mar 2007
            • 19

            • Denver, CO

            • 2006 SANTE 210

            #6
            Thanks for the suggestions. I checked the safety lanyard and the bilge switch, they are not the problem. I'll check the connections at the control position sensor and throttle actuator control if somebody can direct me to where they are located? I appreciate all the help.

            The boat is under warranty so I scheduled a service appointment for 4/11, but I'd like to have some idea what the issue is so they'll know what to fix.

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            • jkallen21
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jan 2013
              • 399

              • United States

              • 2006 Super Air 220

              #7
              I know this thread is 6 years old, but I have an 06 SANTE 220 that did the same thing this weekend. The engine did appear to still be running, but increasing throttle did nothing. Shutting off/on did the trick and it was all normal again. I would love to know if your trip to the dealer actually yielded anything useful on this. Not a big problem for me, just a curiosity thing.

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              • jrcarte78
                • Aug 2007
                • 21

                • Northwest AR

                • 23' Wakeboat

                #8
                I recently had a somewhat similar situation on an 02 210. Hit a big wave hard but, in my case, everything went dead. To make a long story short, it ended up being the bilge switch got killed internally(switch was physically still in the on position). I flipped the switch off, then back on and was good to go after that.... Maybe these switches go bad after a few years....
                J.R.
                '02 SAN 210

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                • AirTool
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4049

                  • Katy, Texas


                  #9
                  Originally posted by jrcarte78 View Post
                  I recently had a somewhat similar situation on an 02 210. Hit a big wave hard but, in my case, everything went dead. To make a long story short, it ended up being the bilge switch got killed internally(switch was physically still in the on position). I flipped the switch off, then back on and was good to go after that.... Maybe these switches go bad after a few years....
                  Yes OP needs to check the toggle by wiggling the wires. My toggle had a loose tang and was intermittent.

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                  • mbaumet
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 54

                    • Liberty Township, OH

                    • 2018 Super Air Nautique 230

                    #10
                    I just had the same issue with my 2006 210. It turned out a wire to the switch had a connection that was loosening. I didn't diagnose it until the wire finally broke loose from where it was soldered to the switch. The original switch is garbage, had cheap tabs that the wires were soldered to. Click image for larger version

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                    2018 SANTE 230 - H5
                    2006 SANTE 210

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                    • layzdude
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 42

                      • ADK

                      • 2006 SV211 1989 Sunbird Corsica 175

                      #11
                      We had the same issue last year check the potentiometer, ours broke off the base where the linkage connects.

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                      • Woody_tobius_jr
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 248

                        • Alberta, Canada

                        • 2004 SV211 Air Nautique TE

                        #12
                        Originally posted by layzdude View Post
                        We had the same issue last year check the potentiometer, ours broke off the base where the linkage connects.
                        Would you be able to post a picture of the potentiometer? I've read quite a bit about this, but have no idea where it is located and what it's function is.

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                        • AirTool
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 4049

                          • Katy, Texas


                          #13
                          Originally posted by Woody_tobius_jr View Post
                          Would you be able to post a picture of the potentiometer? I've read quite a bit about this, but have no idea where it is located and what it's function is.
                          Open up your engine cover....then have someone work the throttle lever back and forth....and you'll see it moving.

                          here is a pic http://www.nautiqueparts.com/potentiometerassy-1.aspx (check the year model before ordering)

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                          • jkallen21
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 399

                            • United States

                            • 2006 Super Air 220

                            #14
                            I had this happen twice yesterday and was able to let it sit in this condition for a few mins to take mental notes.
                            The engine IS running. The gauges are all one. I "think" the radio off for a second - but came back on - not 100% positive on that one though.
                            The boat will engage reverse and forward but at a VERY VERY slow pace no matter how much throttle you give. I was not able to reach 1000 RPM from what I recall.
                            The wakes I hit in each case were not that large. I hit much larger ones that day with no issue.
                            If it were the lanyard or kill switch, the engine would not still be running. I know almost nothing about the Potentiometer and what role it plays. Any other ideas are welcome too. Hitting stop and start again restores to normal.

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                            • jkallen21
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 399

                              • United States

                              • 2006 Super Air 220

                              #15
                              I thought I'd post the fix for this on my 2006 SANTE. There is a positive (red) cable that connects to the back side of the breaker box panel at the driver feet that worked it's way loose. This became so bad in the end that the tiniest of wakes would kill the engine. When I finally found this, the nut was gone and I had to get a replacement. I had to pull the board off to get at it. Remember that you're dealing with a live wire so disconnect battery first. It's amazing that the early posters to this thread were spot-on about it being an electrical issue. This forum is awesome.

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