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  • frymantcu
    • Jun 2005
    • 31

    • DFW


    Perfect Pass Not Available!

    I just tried to put an order in for perfect pass through my local nautique dealer and she called back because the people at perfect pass said the wakeboard edition will not work with my hull :evil: I really am disappointed, I'm not sure what the specifics of my hull are that would cause this but it's a 2000 Pro Air. I then asked about the RPM version which they said that it would not be very steady and did not recommend it either. I thought that the RPM version worked well with DD models?

    So then I thought I'd save some money and just upgrade my crappy digital gauges to the updated analog ones, but those use the paddle wheel too! What do I do???

    Thanks in advance your help...
  • krs0394
    • Jan 2006
    • 170

    • Sturgis, MI


    #2
    RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

    I don't buy that!!! I was under the impression that PP could be put on any boat.
    1973 CC Skier
    1989 SN 2001
    2002 SN 196
    2005 216 Limited

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    • dba4life
      • Sep 2004
      • 223

      • Raleigh, NC


      #3
      RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

      I would call Perfectpass yourself. That does not sound right at all.

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      • Sinkoumn
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2006
        • 578

        • MPLS - St. Paul, MN

        • Super Sport Nautique

        #4
        RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

        If I could install perfect pass on my old 1984 Crestliner, you can install it on your 2000 Pro Air.

        I will be absolutely floored if that is true that you cannot install PP on your boat.
        Neuston Boards
        Nautiques

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        • Quinner
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 2246

          • Unknown

          • Correct Crafts

          #5
          RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

          When we ordered our 99' Air perfect pass was an option and we got it, pretty much the same boat as yours, ours was a TSC hull, assuming yours is a TWC could that somehow make a difference? Sounds crazy to me, give PP a call.

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          • Sinkoumn
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jun 2006
            • 578

            • MPLS - St. Paul, MN

            • Super Sport Nautique

            #6
            RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

            Might just want to tell the dealer to call PP again...
            Neuston Boards
            Nautiques

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            • BHog
              • Dec 2006
              • 207

              • Rockwall, TX


              #7
              RE: Perfect Pass Not Available!

              Yeah I have never heard that! You can put a PP on anything. Buxtons told you that??!!

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              • xlair
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jul 2003
                • 694

                • Wisconsin


                #8
                PerfectPass doesn't recommend using the WakeboardPro w/paddlewheel on the TWC hull. This is because the vents and lifting strakes create a lot of "disturbance" which the paddlewheel doesn't like. This results in great speed fluctuation.

                I had WBPro on a '99 PAN and in the normal location by the drain plug it worked like crap. We then plugged the whole up and drilled a new one by the transmission and that worked much better.
                2001 Pro Air Nautique
                GT-40, Stargazer, 1200 lbs auto-ballast

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                • Laptom
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 876

                  • Eindhoven, Netherlands


                  #9
                  I think xlair is right. The TWC is a strange hull and you need to be carefull where to put the paddlewheel. But it should possible to install PP wakeboard pro. I have seen many PAN's with the paddlewheel.
                  230 with ZR6 running on propane

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                  • frymantcu
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 31

                    • DFW


                    #10
                    I thought the same thing, so I'm going to call PP today after class but has anyone rode with the RPM version? They said it was not accurate enough to be worth it but I heard that it was only inaccurate with V-drives?

                    Bhog, yeah Buxton told me that, and since they are in business to make money I don't think they want to turn me away. I trust fully Buxton with my boat so I don't want to outright call BS until I do my homework.

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                    • brianc
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 46

                      • Europe

                      • 1999 196 2005 196 team zr6 2005 226 team zr6 2007 211 team zr6 2006 196 excal 2008 196 limited z409 2010 200 team ob 343

                      #11
                      THEY SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE 226 AND THEY INSTALL A TRANSOM MOUNT PADEL WHEEL I WOULD RING PP DIRECT AND ASK THEM I RAN MY 226 LAST YEAR ON THE RPM MODE AND IT WORKED FINE

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                      • Quinner
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 2246

                        • Unknown

                        • Correct Crafts

                        #12
                        The RPM version works OK if you do not need to make any turns, when turning you loose speed and usually need to adjust again once you straighten your line up.

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                        • Miljack
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 1616

                          • Charlotte, NC

                          • '08 230 TE ZR6

                          #13
                          I've just finished an install on my 99 Pro Air, and I got the same input from the PP people. They probably are frustrated by trying to make it work on the TWC hull. I did speak to them, and what they are trying to do is absolve themselves of the responsibility to make the system work perfectly on these hulls. When I talked to them, they said the location BEHIND the drain plug worked better, this is on the center line of the boat.
                          It's funny that you mention Buxton's as not wanting to sell you the PP. When I was asking the CC customer service people in Orlando where the best location would be for the paddle wheel, they called Buxton's! I also called Buxton's and got someone in the service department, and he told me they worked fine when mounted on the center line. You will also want to search on here, as there a few people with TWC hulls and PP, some said they worked great, others complained about speed wandering, but if I can keep it within 1-2 mph, that will be better than anyone I've had drive the boat so far...
                          I'm hoping to get mine in the water soon, I'll give you a performance report when I do.

                          Jack
                          2008 230 TE-ZR6
                          1999 Pro Air Python-sold and moved away :-(

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                          • jchamlin
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 171

                            • Charlotte, NC


                            #14
                            Hey, frymantcu...what gauges did you use as replacements? I've got those digital gauges which have been replaced once and the backlight on one of them has already gone out.
                            2000 Air Nautique

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                            • Hlymons
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 223

                              • Roseville, Ca.


                              #15
                              Here is a link on my change out.
                              http://www.planetnautique.com/index....ghlight=#57285

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