finally hit something

[speck]

so the wife was driving and i was coaching the daughter surfing and we felt a bump. luckily shortly after my daughter let go and when we tried to turn around we had no steering. the inside of the bilge is perfectly fine. the prop has a minor bend in one blade that i am assuming is easy to straighten. the rudder is completely gone. my theory is that with the boat weighted like it was the stern was down low and the bow high which made the rudder stick down lower than the prop, hence the minor prop damage. there is no other damage or stress cracks that i can see. here are the pics.

so i have a new rudder in my future, i am competent to change it myself. besides the dealer is there anywhere to compare prices with? is this a nautique specific item? it is an 06 210 team. any hints on straightening the prop, or procedures? it is only out 3/16 at the tip
thanks

[MHayes]

RE: finally hit something

Wow, sheared it right off. The best place to get the rudder would probably be White Lake:

http://www.shopwhitelake.com/rudderwtrimtab.html

Be sure to get the PN 10% discount! As for straightening the prop, I guess it's according to how bad it is. A reputable prop shop should be able to straighten it out if it's only slightly dinged. Just keep in mind that the prop has to be perfect or you will get vibration in the boat!

[speck]

thank you, at $415 these seem to be worse than hitting the prop.
anybody tapped or bent out a prop themselves?

[azwakeboarder]

You can buy a set of pitch blocks, balancing arbor and funnels and do it yourself but good luck!





If you get good at you can make some extra money on the side!!

My favorite pitch block article...

[inboardsonly]

Heat and Beat!

Take it to a prop shop.
I take mine into Osborne Propeller in North Vancouver, and the do a full analysis of the prop, before and after repair...
You get a printout showing where metal was added, removed, the pitch, cup, balance, etc.

Right beside my 14" prop is a 48" prop from a tug, and a 72 incher from a ferry!

Pays to get good repair shops to do it.

IO

[ag4ever]

Yup, get a shop to fix the prop. i tried the it looks close method, and all it did was vibrate and add more damage to the prop.

I use Bauman Marine on the east side of Houston. They to do small to extremely large prop work.

[gunnin4six]

I hit something and just had it fixed. I did a little more damage than that to the prop, as well as very minor gelcoat damage from the force driven into the strut and rudder port. Double check your rudder port, I thought mine was fine, but it was slightly bent, dealer had to replace the entire port. Good Luck!

[bchesley]

I can vouch for bauman. I have had two props fixed by them and they do excellent work. I would never think of doing it my self. You should check out there website and see the process and tools they use. Pretty incredible.

Brad

[east tx skier]

Assuming it's an Acme, you might look into just sending it to them. We had a run in with a broken off channel marker in my father in law's boat. Sent the prop (an OJ) to OJ, and had it back, better than new, in about 10 days. Cost was $85 plus shipping for a four blade.

[speck]

i already fixed the prop. if you look at the pics it was out only so slightly at the very tip, that i did not even take it off of the boat. it is so good now that if you run your finger along it you can't tell at all which was the damaged one. i will tell for sure this weekend.
a new rudder is on its way from white lake. David there was a great help in getting it out fast and i highly recommend them. here is a pic of the rudder shaft. does it look like a porous casting? i know i know, you hit something you take your chances, but the dark spot in the middle is concerning.
thanks

[surroundsound64]

You sure did hit it good!!! That shaft does look interesting... not sure what to think.

[Andrew]

that shaft looks like pure $h!+

[speck]

if you look closely you can see it bent slightly, then popped off

[66Skylark]

Interesting that the prop was only slightly bent, but the rudder was snapped off. Looking at the dark spot at the break, I'd bet it isn’t a coincidence that the rudder failed there. It just doen't look right.

Good luck with the repairs and hope you're back on the water soon...

[tourpro]

Coming from a machinist / welder fitter back ground I can tell you ALL castings are sh*t. The bad news ... you'll never forge a fraction of the things you can cast.

Castings have porosity holes (read air pockets) since the molten metal is poured into a mold to create the shape. Often perosity holes create weak spots by cracking in the direction of another perosity hole. Before you know it the part is cracked right through.

Forged parts are beat into shape from solid bar. Stamped parts (like your oil pan) are also made from solid sheets and not cast.

That is why the pistons are forged.