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  • jmo
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Mar 2006
    • 706

    • MA


    #31
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    Originally posted by C-Money
    What are you guys doing to get the green antifreeze out in the spring when it's time to ride again?
    This is why most people use the pink marine/RV antifreeze that is non toxic and hence you don't have to worry about flushing it all out before you put your boat in.

    If I had put automotive (green) antifreeze into the block, in my driveway I would manually drain the block to get as much as I could out and then use the same trick of running a tube from the intake of the water strainer and into a bucket and cycle water through it until all the residual is out. Just put a hose in the bucket and make sure the flow rate is enough so it can keep up with the demand.

    HTH,

    jmo
    2018 Ski Nautique 200 TE, H6
    - 2006 Ski Nautique 196 LE, Excalibur 330
    - 2001 Super Sport Nautique, GT40

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    • chief351
      • Aug 2007
      • 107

      • Ontario

      • 2015 SN200 ZR409

      #32
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      [quote="jmo"][quote="C-Money"]What are you guys doing to get the green antifreeze out in the spring when itJMO - I will be flushing in spring with hose water. When the exhaust starts driping clear I know the antifreeze is pretty much gone. I have been told to keep this antifreeze and use it for winterizing. But not before testing it to see if it is retaining the correct properties to protect as it should for another season.
      New ride 2005 SN 196
      Sold 2010-09-05 - 1990 SN - 610 hrs

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      • chief351
        • Aug 2007
        • 107

        • Ontario

        • 2015 SN200 ZR409

        #33
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        Another question. I found what looks to be the shower in my boat while winterizing it. It was a flexibe white hose coiled up neatly near the gas tank and had a chrome head on it. I don't think it has ever been used. What is the procedure for using it? Just turn it on? Or are there other connections/valves that need to be opened?

        Thanks
        Chief
        New ride 2005 SN 196
        Sold 2010-09-05 - 1990 SN - 610 hrs

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        • slob02
          • Sep 2003
          • 333

          • Shawnee Lake Jamestown, Ohio

          • 1993 SNOB 1997 196 2004 206 Team 2008 210 Team 2020 210

          #34
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          Make sure the "pink" is for marine ENGINES..........not marine plumbing. I usually use the Blue.
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          1993 Ski Nautique SNOB

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          • Quinner
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 2245

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            • Correct Crafts

            #35
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            Chief,

            That sounds like a shower, there should be a switch most likely on or near the dash to turn the pump on/off and something on the chrome shower head to turn the water flow on/off at the head. Typically the motor need to be running for the shower to operate properly. To winterize Start by running the pump/head w/o the motor running, this should get most water out of the shower system. I Winterize with the engine running with anti-freeze through the intake, doing it this way just turn the pump and head on while running and you should eventually see the anti-freeze come out the shower head, then turn the head off, otherwise you could disconnect what should be a red and blue hose coming out of the block and water supply, these should be your hot & cold feed to the shower and pump, and fill both with anti-freeze.

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            • MiracleDriver
              • Apr 2006
              • 120

              • Ontario, Canada


              #36
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              never used antifreeze. -35 to -40 some nights during winter where the boat is.

              1 frost plug on my old boat with 351. only time in 15 years had a problem from this method of just removing all the drain plugs and turning it over a few times to get all the water out.

              add stabil, fog the cylinders and carb and it fires right up in the spring.

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              • TRBenj
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • May 2005
                • 1681

                • NWCT


                #37
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                Originally posted by slob02
                Make sure the "pink" is for marine ENGINES..........not marine plumbing. I usually use the Blue.
                Ive read that the pink/red marine/RV antifreeze doesnt have the corrosion inhibitors, but I just cant see that it makes a big difference. Just having the water passages filled with SOMETHING is better than leaving the block empty where air can start the rusting process. I cant imagine that the pink/red stuff has any less corrosion resistance than the lakewater that sits in the block all spring/summer/fall.

                Originally posted by MiracleDriver
                never used antifreeze. 1 frost plug on my old boat with 351.
                It hardly seems like a foolproof method to leave the block dry. Why take the chance of blowing another freeze plug?
                1990 Ski Nautique
                NWCT

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                • M3Fan
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1034



                  #38
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                  Originally posted by TRBenj
                  I cant imagine that the pink/red stuff has any less corrosion resistance than the lakewater that sits in the block all spring/summer/fall.
                  Great point.
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                  2016 SN 200 H5
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                  • WakeSlayer
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2069

                    • Silver Creek, MN

                    • 1968 Mustang

                    #39
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                    This thread has got me thinking about draining my block prior to adding the anifreeze. Maybe it will keep my gut from twisting up in knots when the mercury plummets to -30* F. Not sure, as I never have. But......
                    the WakeSlayer
                    1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                    1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                    • Quinner
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                      • Apr 2004
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                      #40
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                      Slayer,

                      Years past I have added without draining and had no problem but now I always drain then add the anti-freeze to ensure it does not become too diluted.

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                      • WakeSlayer
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2069

                        • Silver Creek, MN

                        • 1968 Mustang

                        #41
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                        My hesitation is purely access related. working on my motor is such a drag. i have always used the bucket method, recirc it a couple times and test it. I leave it undiluted and figure that by the time it has run a couple minutes, at least half the straight water is gone, and the leftover water combined with the 6-8 gallons of antifreeze comes up to about 75AF-25W mix. So far so good, but like I said, this thread has got me thinking.
                        the WakeSlayer
                        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                        • slob02
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 333

                          • Shawnee Lake Jamestown, Ohio

                          • 1993 SNOB 1997 196 2004 206 Team 2008 210 Team 2020 210

                          #42
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                          Probably right about the PINK not being any worse than water itself. I don't know of anything in it that would accelerate a problem??
                          2008 Super Air 210 Team
                          2004 AIR 206 Team
                          1997 Ski Nautique 196
                          1993 Ski Nautique SNOB

                          Don\'t let yourself get old and say, \"I wish I would have.........\"!

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                          • coloradonautique
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 98

                            • Denver, Colorado

                            • 2001 AN 1990 SNCB

                            #43
                            I always drain before filling with antifreeze.

                            However, if it is a pain to do in your setup, I believe WestMarine (and others) sell a minus 100* version of the pink AF that is meant to be diluted. I actually think it is blue or green but is still a non-toxic AF. Using that stuff would ensure if it gets diluted by the water in the engine you will still have the freeze protection.

                            I always drain for peace of mind because I would worry how, where and to what degree the antifreeze mixed with the water in the various passages

                            Similar to other folks, I use the RWP suck up method after draining since I have a shower and heater that I want to force the AF into. After everything is filled, I remove the RWP impeller and strainer.
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                            1991 Ski &lt;-- Old boat
                            Denver, CO

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                            • coloradonautique
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 98

                              • Denver, Colorado

                              • 2001 AN 1990 SNCB

                              #44
                              Anyone have some neat tricks / procedures for changing the transmission oil? Do you guys use a drill pump or something to get it all out? Our old '91 did not have a drain plug but I have not looked on our current '01.
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                              2001 Air &lt;-- New boat
                              1991 Ski &lt;-- Old boat
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                              • 79bombi
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 8



                                #45
                                On my 2000 Sport Nautique I bought a device at NAPA for about $12 which looks like a grease gun with a 12 inch plastic tube attached to it and pulls the fluid out. I was only able to get a 1/2 quart out but the fluid looked good. I could not get the tube far enough down into the transmission - there was a piece of metal that the dipstick goes thru that I could not get the tube thru.

                                79bombi

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