DIY Surf Plate NSS for 2005 SAN 210 TE Plus other Mods

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  • justincastles
    • Aug 2012
    • 3

    • Bendigo, Australia

    • 2005 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition

    DIY Surf Plate NSS for 2005 SAN 210 TE Plus other Mods

    Ok so I love our 2005 SAN 210 Team Edition, but after having a knee reco and then injuring my other knee I am surfing more and more and really loving it. Unfortunately as most of you know the old 210 isn't the easiest boat to weight for port side surfing.

    We had a good wave dialled last summer but it involved sacs all over the seats and the boat listed so far to port water comes in the air vent and everyone on board felt nervous. Plus if just one person moved to the other side to be more comfortable the wake would wash out.
    We started looking at potential boat upgrades that would surf better, but to find something like the nautique with similar option(zr6, heater, 380hrs) it was going to be a hefty upgrade cost.

    I love the idea of NSS and if I could afford a new boat it would be a 2014 230 with NSS!

    After reading every DIY Surf gate thread and then finally coming across a NSS style one I decided I had to try it.

    I wanted to test it without modifying the boat at all so we removed the back deck from the brackets and used them to fashion a dodgy pine frame that we could start screwing a test plate to.

    I then traced the shape of the hull and cut a plate out of 12mm HDPE plastic that went out the side of the hull approx 40mm and the bottom of the hull approx 30mm. This was based of videos and images online plus some of the awesome DIY threads that are already going.
    The plate was fixed with a shelf bracket and some more pine to match the angle of the back of the hull.
    I know.......very dodgy! but this whole process took a few hours including an hour trip to the hardware store!
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    A quick lake test that afternoon and it worked! A very surfable wake with stock ballast and 5 people in a level boat!

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    Now that this worked I went to a local marine workshop that is great with custom jobs and talked to them about making a removable brackets that used the existing transom mounts.

    I told them I wanted:
    Quick and easy to install and remove on the water.
    No scews just one or two pins
    No holes in the hull if possible
    Ability for me to change out plates whenever I want to make up a new one

    After a few phone calls we come up with this idea and they made it for me!

    So far I have cut a small plate the only comes out the side for stock ballast, and a large plate more like the NSS size for when the boat is weighted up. The plates have eva foam on the face to close the gap between the hull and protect the hull.
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    I have tested it quickly and it was awesome!
    I have two brackets for each side as I have discovered that the plate size and shape should vary depending on the amount of weight in the boat. I am really looking forward to playing with the plate shapes and tweaking the wake shape to be perfect. The best part of a manually removable plate is they can be any size or shape as you don't have to worry about retracting them in behind the side of the boat for normal wakeboarding, you just take them off.

    Switching the plate takes less than 30 seconds.

    This project has inspired me to spend some time and money on this awesome boat and hang onto it for a while!

    I just received my order from Wakemakers to replace the rear tanks with 750's and add the integrated bow sac. I am also replacing the tired fill pumps with rule 1100's. I am hoping to work out how to piggyback the bow sac off the belly tank, has anyone done this? Oh and I didn't want to go with ballast puppies yet as current system has worked well for me so far and I don't want to mess with wiring/relays just yet.

    Other plans before our summer really starts(from Australia) are new interior upholstery, add wrap around seat behind driver, flip up bolster seat, LED light bar on tower, LEDs throughout the cabin, replace 4 polk tower speakers with 1 pair REV10's. If anyone has any suggestions on this stuff I would love to hear them!

    I'll get some proper wake pics when the new ballast is installed!
  • crobi2
    • Dec 2010
    • 337

    • Texas

    • 2000 Super Air Nautique

    #2
    Wow.

    Good job, more power to you!
    Rob
    2000 SAN

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    • mnwakerider
      • May 2011
      • 271

      • Minneapolis, MN


      #3
      Awesome. Let's see some more wave pics!


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      • stewartsnow
        • Apr 2011
        • 43

        • Vernon BC

        • '00 SAN Python '87 2001

        #4
        So do you mount it on port side for a port side wave? Pic shows it mounted on *board and surfing port, sorry I haven't researched the NSS system that much. I also have an older 210 and love this idea!
        2000 SAN
        Python powered

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        • pe4me
          • Jan 2013
          • 165

          • Dhahran, KSA/ Green Bay, Wi

          • 1997 SSN 2006 210 TE www.whitelake.com 1994 Prostar 205 (restored) 198

          #5
          Well done mate. There are heaps of people who will love this brilliant idea. Many thought but few act.
          - save thousands over upgrade
          - boat becomes more usable, therefore worth more in the eyes of would be surfers
          - quick change plates to dial your wave...
          Someone will catch this and make tons of money off your DIY...if its not on the table already.
          [COLOR=#333333]2006 210 TE[/COLOR]
          [COLOR=#333333]www.whitelake.com[/COLOR]
          [COLOR=#333333]1994 Prostar 205 (restored)[/COLOR]
          [COLOR=#333333]1986 Dixie Skier OB[/COLOR]

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          • s_kelley2000
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 1575
            • Fort Meadow Recevoir

            • Mass

            • 2012 Super Air Nautique 230 1999 Nautique Super Sport with 502 Python (for Sale)

            #6
            Awesome job and welcome to the site! I love that you didn't have to drill holes in your boat or platform. I can't wait to see more pics/video when you get it dialed in.

            Stewart, NSS and Surf Gate both work on delayed convergence. The plate or gate is deployed on the opposite side you will be surfing on.
            Shawn

            2012 Blue Metal Flake SAN 230

            1999 Black and Tan Python 502 Powered Super Sport (for Sale)

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            • stewartsnow
              • Apr 2011
              • 43

              • Vernon BC

              • '00 SAN Python '87 2001

              #7
              Stewart, NSS and Surf Gate both work on delayed convergence. The plate or gate is deployed on the opposite side you will be surfing on.[/QUOTE]

              Thanks! Ill have to add this to my growing to-do list
              2000 SAN
              Python powered

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              • nyryan2001
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1993

                • Lake Anna


                #8
                A+++++++++
                2019 G23 450
                2014 G23 550
                2013 G23 450
                2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                2007 Yamaha AR210

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                • Miljack
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1616

                  • Charlotte, NC

                  • '08 230 TE ZR6

                  #9
                  Nice work! From the pics of your wake, I'm thinking a little "shaping" session will benefit your wake a bit. We noticed a little wash on the boat we surfed w/NSS, and we attributed this to an anomaly on the NSS plates. Maybe matching the "notch" on the transom would clean it up? Maybe a rounded shape?
                  The great thing about your setup is how easy it will be to play with some different shapes...

                  Post updates!
                  2008 230 TE-ZR6
                  1999 Pro Air Python-sold and moved away :-(

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                  • jangelides
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 10

                    • Philadelphia

                    • 84 Ski Nautique 2002 SANTE

                    #10
                    Hi Justin

                    Thanks for the great idea. I actually used your design but modified slightly wo as not to have to weld anything permanent. I toox 4x4x1/4 inch alu angle and removed the swim platform bracket and used it as a base to attach my fins to. It works exactly the same way. Biggest hassle is getting behind the hard tanks to get to the platform bolts. It works very well with the factory 850 plus another 400 on the surf side and then another 300-500 in the bow.

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                    • 99SAN
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 172

                      • Roll Tide


                      #11
                      Originally posted by jangelides View Post
                      Hi Justin

                      Thanks for the great idea. I actually used your design but modified slightly wo as not to have to weld anything permanent. I toox 4x4x1/4 inch alu angle and removed the swim platform bracket and used it as a base to attach my fins to. It works exactly the same way. Biggest hassle is getting behind the hard tanks to get to the platform bolts. It works very well with the factory 850 plus another 400 on the surf side and then another 300-500 in the bow.

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                      Jangelises, Have you tried moving the plate out and down more to see if it helps the wake. How far out do u have it now

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                      • gome123
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 199

                        • ID

                        • 2005 SAN 210 Team

                        #12
                        Jangelides... I like your design. I also thought about using the existing platform mounts. Can you also provide a few pics of the mount area? I would like to see how you mounted from the boat, AL Angle and the platform bracket. This is a great way to mount with out putting more holes in the boat. Have you thought about making the plastic tab be moveable?? So you can slide in and out the side of the boat to dial the wave.

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                        • lucky7t
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1306

                          • Oklahoma

                          • 2015 SANTE

                          #13
                          DIY Surf Plate NSS for 2005 SAN 210 TE Plus other Mods

                          With all the extra ballast your adding do you need nss? I surfed all day in our 2012 (before nss was added) and 2007 with one fat sac on the rear seat on starboard side. It looks like your adding an additional 900 pounds of ballast over stock if I'm correct.
                          Current Correct Craft Boat
                          [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                          Correct Craft Boats Owned
                          [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                          [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                          [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                          • jangelides
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 10

                            • Philadelphia

                            • 84 Ski Nautique 2002 SANTE

                            #14
                            I haven't yet. I'm making a slightly bigger plate this week. Il keep you posted.

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                            • jangelides
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 10

                              • Philadelphia

                              • 84 Ski Nautique 2002 SANTE

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gome123 View Post
                              Jangelides... I like your design. I also thought about using the existing platform mounts. Can you also provide a few pics of the mount area? I would like to see how you mounted from the boat, AL Angle and the platform bracket. This is a great way to mount with out putting more holes in the boat. Have you thought about making the plastic tab be moveable?? So you can slide in and out the side of the boat to dial the wave.
                              Hi

                              I will take more picts and post later. We used it on Sat and it seemed to work well really cleaning up the wake. here is a pict.

                              Configuration was as follows:
                              1 driver 2 passengers on port side
                              Factory ballast full
                              500 up front
                              250 in rear port locker
                              250 on rear port seat

                              As far as different holes, for different mounting configurations, I did not plan on doing that. I am going to simply make slightly different size plates and see what works best. My next one will be slightly bigger and extend about 2" on the right and 1.5 on the bottom.

                              Here is the wake from this weekend. It was a little steep so we added some weight to the front and stretched it out and then it was really nice. One thing we noticed is the water needs to be deep. We run on a river and in places its only 4 feet deep in which case the wake disappears.



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