DIY Surf Plate NSS for 2005 SAN 210 TE Plus other Mods

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  • shredthegnar
    • Oct 2014
    • 3

    • Lehi, Ut

    • 2004 Super Air Nautique

    #16
    Did you ever get the system dialed in? Has anyone looked into using the tabs system like the Mastercraft gen 2 system.

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    • Lovenwlink
      • Jul 2010
      • 20

      • Lake Sammamish WA

      • 1998 Super Sport

      #17
      Great job!
      Thinking will try this for my 98 super sport any updates as far as plate sizes or shapes?
      Thank you

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      • Zpenter
        • Feb 2014
        • 17

        • Arkansas

        • All of them!

        #18
        Was wondering how the new plate worked

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        • theskunk
          • Oct 2014
          • 232

          • Stafford, VA

          • 2006 sv-211

          #19
          I really want to try something similar to this, without drilling holes that can easily mount to the swim platform bracket. My only major concern is that the platform can't handle the extra amount of stress from having this hanging out the side.

          I'm wondering if any of the scientific types can calculate exactly how much force is exacted against the tab, and more importantly, the platform bolts themselves.

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          • alexbailey228
            • Jun 2012
            • 49

            • Huntersville NC


            #20
            wow this is so awesome! I love how it doesn't have to drill into the boat. What are the chances of me talking you into building me one of these for $$

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            • rcazwillis
              • Feb 2014
              • 117

              • Fort Worth, TX

              • 2002 SANTE

              #21
              oops, posted to wrong thread...

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              • Potsy89
                • Apr 2015
                • 2

                • Pnw

                • 05' sante

                #22
                Hey dude, i have the same boat an put rev8's on. i had to lower the bimini 3-4". I'm 6'3", they lasted 1 trip then took them off. if you have a bimini that you use i would maybe try different tower speakers.

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                • SuperAirIan
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 35

                  • Alberta, Canada

                  • 2001 SAN 8.2L Python, FAE, 2.3K, 4 Johnsons

                  #23
                  Originally posted by theskunk View Post
                  I really want to try something similar to this, without drilling holes that can easily mount to the swim platform bracket. My only major concern is that the platform can't handle the extra amount of stress from having this hanging out the side.

                  I'm wondering if any of the scientific types can calculate exactly how much force is exacted against the tab, and more importantly, the platform bolts themselves.
                  This is a very old thread...and I am certainly NOT a "Scientific" type...you'd be welcome to use a spreadsheet I put together to calculate the pressure if I could only figure out how to get an Excel Spreadsheet to post here.
                  Formula Force = Apv^2
                  Formula Units
                  Force Total Force Exerted Newtons
                  A Surface Area of Plate Square Meters
                  p Density of water @ xxF* KGs/Cubic Meter
                  v^2 Velocity of Water Squared Meters/Second
                  The answer is in Newtons. One Newton is approximately 0.2248 Pounds-force.

                  For example...a plate with 33 square inches exposed to a perpendicular flow of water moving at 10 MPH that is at +70 degrees F is exposed to about 94 lbs of force...or about 2.8 PSI
                  Last edited by SuperAirIan; 04-12-2016, 08:42 AM.

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                  • SuperAirIan
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 35

                    • Alberta, Canada

                    • 2001 SAN 8.2L Python, FAE, 2.3K, 4 Johnsons

                    #24
                    Here is a more detailed result of a 33 square inch tab moving through water at various temps and speeds....
                    Water Temp 10 Mph 5 Mph 12 Mph 15 Mph 20 Mph 30 Mph 40 Mph
                    @40*F Surf Plate Pressure 2.9 0.7 4.1 6.5 11.5 25.9 46.0 P.S.I.
                    Total (1) Surf Plate Pressure 95 24 137 213 380 854 1,518 Pound-Force
                    @50*F Surf Plate Pressure 2.9 0.7 4.1 6.4 11.5 25.8 45.8 P.S.I.
                    Total (1) Surf Plate Pressure 95 24 136 213 378 851 1,512 Pound-Force
                    @60*F Surf Plate Pressure 2.8 0.7 4.1 6.4 11.4 25.6 45.6 P.S.I.
                    Total (1) Surf Plate Pressure 94 24 135 212 376 846 1,504 Pound-Force
                    @70*F Surf Plate Pressure 2.8 0.7 4.1 6.4 11.3 25.5 45.4 P.S.I.
                    Total (1) Surf Plate Pressure 94 23 135 210 374 842 1,497 Pound-Force
                    @80*F Surf Plate Pressure 2.8 0.7 4.1 6.3 11.3 25.3 45.0 P.S.I.
                    Total (1) Surf Plate Pressure 93 23 134 209 372 836 1,486 Pound-Force

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                    • nukemustang
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 410

                      • Summerville, SC

                      • Current Boat: 2018 GS20

                      #25
                      Interesting to see there is really not that much pressure applied to the side of the boat at surfing speeds...

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                      • theskunk
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 232

                        • Stafford, VA

                        • 2006 sv-211

                        #26
                        Which is exactly why my design can use suction cups and still hang on appropriately

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                        • jreed7374
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 3

                          • Suwanee, GA

                          • 2003 Super Air Limited

                          #27
                          Could you take some pics of the brackets by themselves? Can see the outside really well - would like to see the inside a bit more clearly. Ant dimensions on them would be helpful as well. Awesome build.


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                          • ohiowake2
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 106

                            • OHIO

                            • 2001 SAN

                            #28
                            What is your plate made out of and how thick is it?

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                            • Jholly87
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 89

                              • Ohio

                              • 2006 220 SAN (current) 2000 210 SAN (sold) 1997 Nautique SS (sold) 2004 210 SAN (sold) 1996 Nautique SS (sold)

                              #29
                              I built some surf tabs this past weekend and tried them out. I am completely a beginner at the whole surfing thing and quite honestly no clue what I'm doing, but want to get my '96 super sport surf able on port side. My tab sticks out about 2" on side and 1.5 on bottom. I have 2 750s in rear locker and 1 370 in ski locker. I had everything full except was only about 3/4 full on starboard locker. This was my first time trying to surf but I don't feel like I had a big enough wake. Think I need to make tabs slightly bigger and need more weight in front. I pretty well copied these guys idea. Don't have pictures of brackets mounted to boat because my runners on trailer stick out to far to test fit. I used jangelides method though with 4" angle behind swim platform bracket.
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                              Last edited by Jholly87; 06-09-2016, 01:33 PM.

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                              • Shaun san 210
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 1

                                • Australia

                                • SAN 210 te

                                #30
                                Thanks for the ideas I had a crack at it today
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