2008 SANTE 210 NSS Install Thread

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  • shag
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 2217

    • Florida


    #46
    Originally posted by swatguy View Post

    I remember thinking to myself this is a big hole for no use. I can't recall gown much you actually needed , but the 2 inches was def not needed.
    Cool thanks.... Yeah that fitting is barely an inch across lol... I think I have 1.5" I'll just go with...

    Any down side of mounting the switch where you did? I personally think that is the best spot too.

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    • shag
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2217

      • Florida


      #47
      ****, just read in the instructions that the "hole MUST be 2"...... Maybe the pad gets warm and the hole allows for cooling? **** I don't know - 2" it is..

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      • Outdoorjp
        • Jul 2016
        • 178

        • Carlsbad

        • 2011 SAN team 210

        #48
        I see you still had to move the platform brackets.

        Any thoughts on just ordering the 2013 NSS kit that comes with the covers but you defiantly have to move the platform brackets and maybe modify the location of platform.

        They sell a early NSS kit and the factory added one.

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        • ScooterMcgavin
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1478

          • Florida

          • 2014 SAN 210 TE

          #49
          This is a great thread and I wanted to give swatguy a big thanks for documenting his install and sharing it with the forum,
          Last edited by ScooterMcgavin; 07-06-2017, 08:15 PM.
          2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
          2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
          1989 Sport Nautique

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          • swatguy
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2008
            • 1630

            • Midwest/ Northern IL

            • 2008 SANTE 210

            #50
            Update to the thread , system has been flawless and I really have the boat dialed for surf wakes now. I’ve even messed with the tabs being fully deployed and partially deployed . It does have a noticeable effect on the wave where you set them. I was originally on the fence about whether this upgrade was worth the cost given all the suckgate options . Hands down spending about 60 percent of my time on the water running surf wakes for my daughters (One of which is goofy , and other regular ) I can say without a doubt the ease of setup, swapping sides , and consistency in the wave makes the NSS upgrade worth every penny.

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            • 196Mike
              • Apr 2007
              • 129

              • Jacksonville, FL

              • 06' 210 - Current 06' SV211TE - Sold 04' 196 Limited - Sold

              #51
              Swatguy,

              Thanks for this post - very helpful, and I would like to add this to my boat versus the other options. Two questions for you. 1) did the kit come with complete installation instructions, and 2) where did you purchase the kit. I have called a few Nautique dealers; one says they don't make a kit, and the other says it can only be ordered by serial number for a 2011 and newer boat.

              Any help is much appreciated.
              Mike
              '06 SANTE210 - Current Boat
              '06 SV211 TE - Old Boat
              '04 Ski Nautique 196 - Old Boat

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              • swatguy
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • May 2008
                • 1630

                • Midwest/ Northern IL

                • 2008 SANTE 210

                #52
                I purchased my kit through my dealer. When NSS was originally launched they were very strict on a hull number attached to an order. Obviously a great way to get people into new boats. Don’t blame them one bit. However they lessened they restrictions couple years later. So I am under the impression that hull I’d to get a kit is old news that no longer applies. The kit came with everything.

                There is a jig dealers use to line up the plate to drill the holes. It spaces the plates properly. However it’s not a necessity. You can align the plates with eyeballs and achieve the same results with a helping hand and patience. I know some guys have recently installed it it , so I believe it’s still available. Otherwise there is guy on here Maxx who fabbed aftermarket kits for the 210/220/226/230.


                if you need a contact I can put you in touch with my dealer and I am 100% sure they will sell you kit.

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                • dav12321
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 10

                  • Ventura CA

                  • 2010 SAN 210 Team

                  #53
                  How much was a kit from the dealer? Any idea how to get ahold of Max?

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                  • krt
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 231

                    • La Verne

                    • 2008 210 SAN TE

                    #54
                    DM him, Max1.6
                    2008 SAN 210 TE
                    1997 Ski Brendella (sold)

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                    • shag
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2217

                      • Florida


                      #55
                      My Max kit is still working perfect after 4 plus years !

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                      • swatguy
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1630

                        • Midwest/ Northern IL

                        • 2008 SANTE 210

                        #56
                        The entire price list is in the first post of this topic , itemized for everything.

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                        • swatguy
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1630

                          • Midwest/ Northern IL

                          • 2008 SANTE 210

                          #57
                          Ok all been getting lot of DM’s on this lately. Great to still this post helping a lot of others out there . .
                          Figured I make this a final one stop thread now adding in my weight configs here instead of over at the separate surf wake thread . That seems to be the most common question I get as well as do I think it’s worth the cash. I’d like to say I have this dialed after all the years of use.


                          my ballast set up for us on Goofy side
                          - center tank full
                          -piggy back off center tank full (300lbs or so)
                          - 240lbs pop bags stuffed all the way in the bow under the bow cushion
                          -surf side 1100 full
                          - depending on how many people in the boat , I may have to empty the port just a touch to get an ever so slight lean on starboard side. 10.5mph, opposite side NSS plate fully deployed , hydro gate lever fully pulled back ( ie wakeboard setting). Having it fully back makes it the steepest with the most push , but if you ride skim or maybe don’t like steep steeper surf wakes you may prefer the hydrogate pushed forward. It mellows out the steepness


                          Regular side wake
                          - center tank full
                          -piggy back off center tank full (300lbs or so)
                          - 240lbs pop bags stuffed all the way in the bow under the bow cushion
                          -surf side 1100 full
                          - this side needs a little more prominent lean I’ve found to accommodate the prop torque battle. 10.5mph, opposite side NSS plate fully deployed ,​ HERES THE BIG DIFFERENCE , the Hydrogate should be fully engaged (ie pushed forward into ski mode). That will really shape the wave on the regular side and elongate pocket the best for that side. Unfortunately if you adjust the hydrogate here it really gives you a washy lip , so you’re kinda stuck with what you get. You can adjust the NSS ans not fully deploy it to take some steepness out but the pocket gets smaller.


                          hope this helps everyone as one stop shop.

                          I’ll also throw in this for all the primary wakeboarders and wakesurfers alike.
                          The new 2571 Prop it’s absolutely amazing if you’re all in on surf and wakeboarding. It blows the stock team prop (1579) away. It’s also noticeably better than the 1617 which was the big dog for a while. The boys over at Acme designed this beast specifically for this boat with its tight diameter. . I am
                          able to get out the hole with ease running both rear 1100 bags 90%ish full for wakeboarding and the wake is as good as it gets. It’s booty as all heck, the 1617 struggled to plane at 90% on windy days and I would have to dump a little out to more to like 75% full. The 2571 however gets the boat on plane with ease .
                          Last edited by swatguy; 09-05-2023, 09:16 PM.

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                          • srock
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1063

                            • Florida

                            • 2009 Super Air 230 2005 Whaler Dauntless

                            #58
                            Originally posted by swatguy View Post
                            Quinner,




                            One last comment. To finalize the install as a "fail safe ". I moved my bow roller/stop on my trailer back apprx 5-6inches. This now makes the transom of my boat hang off the bunk every so slightly. Now just in case we idle in and forget it noting will be damaged.
                            My 230 trailer is so position/weight sensitive that being 1.5 inches off the roller provides a noticeable difference on the road. The trailer is definitely light on the ball. I would opt for cutting the bunks shorter instead of repositioning the boat on the trailer.

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                            • swatguy
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1630

                              • Midwest/ Northern IL

                              • 2008 SANTE 210

                              #59
                              Unfortunately my Eagle didnt really allow shortening of the rear bunks as the welded mounting point to that bunk only has 1inch of board overhang after the mounting plate. According to the scale the tongue weight was still acceptable.


                              I believe the actual measurement ended up being 3 7/8i inches

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                              • fhod2000
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 2

                                • Kalispell, MT

                                • 2007 210 SAN

                                #60
                                When installing the instruction mention a 1/4 from the edge of the chime or measure in a 1/4from the edge? I have a port side NSS with no jig to install. I do have the instructions.

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