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  • LJBuck
    • May 2016
    • 10

    • The YO

    • 2004 SANTE

    #16
    Gentlemen I Give you: FoldGate Total V 1.0 (Sorry for the head tilt, I can't seem to get these to rotate)


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    • Kingfish126
      • Jun 2015
      • 23

      • Springfield IL

      • 2008 SANTE 210

      #17
      LJBuck where have you found the best location is on the boat for the best results? still back as far a possible and at water line when boat is full? Seems to be very specific to hull and gate design. Im about to make on VERY similar to FoldGate but with stationary brackets.

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      • LJBuck
        • May 2016
        • 10

        • The YO

        • 2004 SANTE

        #18
        Originally posted by Kingfish126 View Post
        LJBuck where have you found the best location is on the boat for the best results? still back as far a possible and at water line when boat is full? Seems to be very specific to hull and gate design. Im about to make on VERY similar to FoldGate but with stationary brackets.
        I placed mine as far back as i couldn't before the bend in the hull. The Plate is forward as opposed to backwards. If you flop that (putting the HDPE plate towards the back) the wake gets very tall and doesn't surf as well IMO. The best placement is far back as possible before the bend in the hull with the hope board towards the bow.

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        • Kingfish126
          • Jun 2015
          • 23

          • Springfield IL

          • 2008 SANTE 210

          #19
          Originally posted by LJBuck View Post

          I placed mine as far back as i couldn't before the bend in the hull. The Plate is forward as opposed to backwards. If you flop that (putting the HDPE plate towards the back) the wake gets very tall and doesn't surf as well IMO. The best placement is far back as possible before the bend in the hull with the hope board towards the bow.
          OK perfect, i noticed your SAN swim lockers on the mastercraft forum and was hoping you were on here! SO, As far back as possible before bend, forward facing plate. What about up and down on the hull when the boat is at full? submerge the plate completely, leave a few inches of the plate exposed?

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          • LJBuck
            • May 2016
            • 10

            • The YO

            • 2004 SANTE

            #20
            Originally posted by Kingfish126 View Post

            OK perfect, i noticed your SAN swim lockers on the mastercraft forum and was hoping you were on here! SO, As far back as possible before bend, forward facing plate. What about up and down on the hull when the boat is at full? submerge the plate completely, leave a few inches of the plate exposed?
            I try and get my waterline once weighted in the center of the plate. You'll know if the plate is too deep because your surfside wake won't be as clean.

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            • Kingfish126
              • Jun 2015
              • 23

              • Springfield IL

              • 2008 SANTE 210

              #21
              Originally posted by LJBuck View Post

              I try and get my waterline once weighted in the center of the plate. You'll know if the plate is too deep because your surfside wake won't be as clean.
              OK, great!

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              • gome123
                • Apr 2014
                • 199

                • ID

                • 2005 SAN 210 Team

                #22
                This SuckGate as some are calling it. Is AMAZING! I tried mine out today works great. I actually followed the other thread on the "Discussions." I actually placed mine on the Angled part of the boat. Worked wonderful.

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                • Kingfish126
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 23

                  • Springfield IL

                  • 2008 SANTE 210

                  #23
                  Originally posted by gome123 View Post
                  This SuckGate as some are calling it. Is AMAZING! I tried mine out today works great. I actually followed the other thread on the "Discussions." I actually placed mine on the Angled part of the boat. Worked wonderful.
                  did you put it at an angle or keep it at a 90 degree?

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                  • Evening Shade
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 1295

                    • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                    • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Kingfish126 View Post

                    did you put it at an angle or keep it at a 90 degree?
                    I'm trying to figure out what the optimal angle for the plate is as well. I haven't done well at getting a nice clean wave yet. I need to work on ballast distribution front/rear, how deep the ghetto gate should be in the water, and whether it works best with the plate facing the bow or turned 180 degrees so the plate is near the transom.
                    2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                    • gome123
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 199

                      • ID

                      • 2005 SAN 210 Team

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Kingfish126 View Post

                      did you put it at an angle or keep it at a 90 degree?
                      I actually left at 90 Deg. Here is a pic of it installed to have reference where I place it.
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                      I rough measured the angle on the boat about 25 deg. So with a 90 Deg plate I am guessing about 65 deg is where it is from parallel to the boat.
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                      • Kingfish126
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 23

                        • Springfield IL

                        • 2008 SANTE 210

                        #26
                        Originally posted by gome123 View Post

                        I actually left at 90 Deg. Here is a pic of it installed to have reference where I place it.
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                        I rough measured the angle on the boat about 25 deg. So with a 90 Deg plate I am guessing about 65 deg is where it is from parallel to the boat.
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                        That's the over all conscious ive read on the wakeworld forum(deleted) and the mastercraft forum, that 60 degrees or so is working the best for panels size around the 8"x6"

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                        • Kingfish126
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 23

                          • Springfield IL

                          • 2008 SANTE 210

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post

                          I'm trying to figure out what the optimal angle for the plate is as well. I haven't done well at getting a nice clean wave yet. I need to work on ballast distribution front/rear, how deep the ghetto gate should be in the water, and whether it works best with the plate facing the bow or turned 180 degrees so the plate is near the transom.
                          When my boat is full i attach the gate about a 1/3 out of the water. seems to work pretty well.

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                          • LJBuck
                            • May 2016
                            • 10

                            • The YO

                            • 2004 SANTE

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post

                            I'm trying to figure out what the optimal angle for the plate is as well. I haven't done well at getting a nice clean wave yet. I need to work on ballast distribution front/rear, how deep the ghetto gate should be in the water, and whether it works best with the plate facing the bow or turned 180 degrees so the plate is near the transom.
                            I think that if you're putting the gate at the hull angle then 90 deg is a must since you're already on an angle. With my gate, the angle is 60 deg and I put it in front of the angle in the hull, facing the bow and it works perfect. As for depth, I weight my boat, then while making sure the boat is level(ish) in the water, I put the gate so it's half out of the water. Makes a nice peaky long wave.

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                            • Evening Shade
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 1295

                              • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                              • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LJBuck View Post

                              I think that if you're putting the gate at the hull angle then 90 deg is a must since you're already on an angle. With my gate, the angle is 60 deg and I put it in front of the angle in the hull, facing the bow and it works perfect. As for depth, I weight my boat, then while making sure the boat is level(ish) in the water, I put the gate so it's half out of the water. Makes a nice peaky long wave.
                              My boat doesn't have the angled hull like your boat so I'm gonna try placing the plate as close to the transom as possible. I've also made a new gate that sweeps back at a 15 degree angle from 90 degrees. I was gonna try a 25 degree angle, but that looked like too much of angle when I dialed it up on my miter saw.

                              Which btw, a miter saw works great for cutting HDPE cutting boards.
                              2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                              • nr2041
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 44

                                • TN

                                • none

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Evening Shade

                                My boat doesn't have the angled hull like your boat so I'm gonna try placing the plate as close to the transom as possible. I've also made a new gate that sweeps back at a 15 degree angle from 90 degrees. I was gonna try a 25 degree angle, but that looked like too much of angle when I dialed it up on my miter saw.

                                Which btw, a miter saw works great for cutting HDPE cutting boards.
                                let me know how the 15 degree works, curious to see what different angles do on different boats, good luck with your build and thanks for the tips on the miter saw

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