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Very nice, but I am biased.
Best thing you can do for a 220 is 1) take out the center seat and put it in storage, 2) take out the hinged step above the "cooler" and put it in storage, and 3) put in fly high 750s on top of the rear tanks and an arrow sac in the ski locker and piggy back them to the existing stock ballast system. Dont get talked into 400 v drive sacs for the rear because they are too small for surfing. For surfing I also use a 400 under the surf side rear seat (2/3 full) and another 400 on top of the rear seat.-Jon
16 G23
07 220 TE
05 211 TE
95 SS (210)
89 SN
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Very nice looking 220. Congratulations! You will enjoy.
Originally posted by jonfo View PostVery nice, but I am biased.
Best thing you can do for a 220 is 1) take out the center seat and put it in storage, 2) take out the hinged step above the "cooler" and put it in storage, and 3) put in fly high 750s on top of the rear tanks and an arrow sac in the ski locker and piggy back them to the existing stock ballast system. Dont get talked into 400 v drive sacs for the rear because they are too small for surfing. For surfing I also use a 400 under the surf side rear seat (2/3 full) and another 400 on top of the rear seat.
I am curious to know why so many people do this. I 1) enjoyed my center seat. Now i did not have it sitting in the middle position but i did like it in the back most position. and 2) the little Hinged dry storage area above the cooler is very handy. I kept mostly towels and t shirts in there.
To each his own i guess.2001 SAN 210 (sold)
2007 SAN 220 (sold)
2012 SAN 230 (sold)
2013 SAN 230 NSS
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Congratulations. Nice looking boat. The green looks sharp with the black.2021 G23 450 - Current
2019 G23 450 - Sold
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2014 G23 550 - Sold
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- Mar 2008
- 68
- St Cloud, FL
- 2014 SAN 210 2007 SANTE 220 1989 Centurion Barefoot Warrior Comp 1991 Concept 21' CC
You'll love the boat. When it was developed and released, they called it the swiss army knife of boats because of all the storage locations. Comes in handy with small kids and a wife that always brings twice as much as necessary. We usually leave the seat in the rear unless we have a cooler, then the seat comes out and gets replace by the cooler.
As for the surf wake, we just run an extra 750 on top of one of the rear tanks, fill the other rear full factory and belly just full factory. 9.8 on the PP and hydrogate at 2. The wake is awesome, especially on the port side, stbd is good too just a little steep and more squared off.
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Everyone has their own way of setting up, so it is interesting to hear what everyone likes regardless if it is my favorite way or not, haha.
Having the extra floor space is nice, and that movable seat is just in the way no matter where you put it. I remember when i first got the boat i used it all the time, but then used it less and less the longer i owned it.
After many years of dialing it in we have found for a perfect surf wake in addition to the 750 on top of the stock tank it needs the two 400s on the surf side and the 400 wont fit very well on top of the port seat with the hinged step there, it pushes against it and could ruin the hinge. also, with that setup and the stock tank full opposite the surf side 12mph is what we use, a bit slower for beginners. You can't go wrong putting more weight in a 220 because it has enough freeboard to handle it, however mistakes that i have made is having it lean too much towards the surf side, it needs to have weight on the opposite side as well. Also not putting enough weight in the front doesnt work well either, if you add to the back, you have to add to the front. As a rule of thumb, its probably 70/30 back/front and 70/30 surf/opposite when adding surf weight.-Jon
16 G23
07 220 TE
05 211 TE
95 SS (210)
89 SN
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Originally posted by jonfo View PostHaving the extra floor space is nice, and that movable seat is just in the way no matter where you put it. I remember when i first got the boat i used it all the time, but then used it less and less the longer i owned it.
After many years of dialing it in we have found for a perfect surf wake in addition to the 750 on top of the stock tank it needs the two 400s on the surf side and the 400 wont fit very well on top of the port seat with the hinged step there, it pushes against it and could ruin the hinge. also, with that setup and the stock tank full opposite the surf side 12mph is what we use, a bit slower for beginners. You can't go wrong putting more weight in a 220 because it has enough freeboard to handle it, however mistakes that i have made is having it lean too much towards the surf side, it needs to have weight on the opposite side as well. Also not putting enough weight in the front doesnt work well either, if you add to the back, you have to add to the front. As a rule of thumb, its probably 70/30 back/front and 70/30 surf/opposite when adding surf weight.
So where do you put the 2 400's on the port side?
I'll have to try filling the opposite stock tank too (haven't tried that yet, and I'lll always be interested in a bigger wave)
Honestly though I've been very happy with the surf wake of the 220, it's been surfable with every configuration I've tried.
Usually I fill port side rear tank w/750 on top. A wedge sac under the rear port seat (maybe 200lbs?) 300lbs in center locker, then fill the center tank 1/2 way with the boat listing (I assume this will put most of the water in the U tank on the port side) Then 60lbs of lead under observer seat plus people on the port seats (usually 2-3)
All ballast is completely hidden and it's a super fun wake.
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we can do port or starboard, so any of this can be done on either side. one 400 goes under the seat and it is about 2/3 full, one goes on top of the seat. i sometimes add a 3rd on the floor if it is just 3 of us and i feel like it, it just keeps getting bigger. now, if we have 5 adults sitting in the boat we dont need the 400 sac on top of the seat. the nice thing about putting the sac there is that nobody "has" to sit on the surf side, they can sit wherever they want. my advice is to worry less about getting all the weight on the surf side, instead experiment with putting more weight in, and also putting some on the opposite side. another rule of thumb i have with the 220 and 210 is that when surfing if there is whitewater/wash/splash on the surf side that is not a bad thing, you just need to either add a little weight back on that side, or empty some from the other, but dont over do it. it is tempting to just put all your weight on the surf side so you never have that wash, but you will lose your "push" if you weight the surf side too much. try to get it so it is just beyond where it washes because when it is right at that threshold is when the wake is best. we like to ride way back which is why i ride at 12 which gives you less drag on your board than at say 10 or 11, but you really need the weight on the opposite side to ride that far back.-Jon
16 G23
07 220 TE
05 211 TE
95 SS (210)
89 SN
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