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  • 78LS2
    • Oct 2006
    • 183



    HO Truth fin adjustment

    I've never bothered to tweek on the fin, and I think that it is time to do so. How do I know when I get it in the "sweet spot?"

    It is currently set at 7 degrees

    Thanks
    \'03 196 LTD
  • NCH2oSki
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 1159

    • Maryville, TN

    • 2005 ski nautique 206 SE

    #2
    RE: HO Truth fin adjustment

    7 Degrees is in the ballpark, do you have calipers to see how the fin is set?

    Not to knock your ski, but it was a very unforgiving hard to set up and get any constancy on ski. I had one for a short time and never could even run my easiest pass on. You might ask for some suggested settings on the nichols forum.
    2005 Ski Nautique 206 SE, Acme 422, PP SG 8.0, ND Tower
    2011 strada with strada bindings

    Prior Boats:
    1986 Sunbird skier with 150 Evinrude VRO
    1992 Mastercraft prostar 190, with Powerslot
    1999 Ski Nautique GT-40
    1999 Sport Nautique, GT-40 FCT,



    www.skiersofknoxville.org

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    • 2004196
      • Dec 2007
      • 162

      • University Place, WA

      • 2006 196LE

      #3
      Truth

      Best adjustment is a circular saw, in thirds so it will fit in the garbage. Get a better ski or you will suffer being on the Truth, and that's the truth!

      Rip it up!
      2004 196 LE Black/Grey
      330HP Excalibur Water Churner
      2002 Grey F150 Harley
      475+HP Supercharged Tire Burner

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      • 2gofaster
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • May 2008
        • 671

        • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


        #4
        RE: Truth

        Tuning on a ski is more than just grabbing a screwdriver and allen wrench and start moving things. You're pissing in the wind if you try moving the fin without an 8 inch caliper and a set of fin angle gauges. First thing I'd do is call HO and find out what their factory fin and wing spec was and set it to that. Also find out what they recommended for binding placement. Usually they'll recommend a distance from the tail to the back of the front binding. Ski it and see what happens. Then use Schnitz's tuning guide to figure out where to go from there. Record all of your measurements each time you do them and notate what the ski does afterward. There are 4 measurements on a fin:

        Depth
        Length
        Distance from tail
        wing angle

        Fin changes are micro adjustments. Moving the bindings is a macro adjustment.
        A .010 change in any measurement is big and can have a big affect on the way the ski works.

        http://www.schnitzskis.com/skitips/skituning.html
        Shane Hill
        2014 Team 200OB
        67 '13 Prophecy

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        • 2gofaster
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2008
          • 671

          • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


          #5
          RE: Truth

          Also, keep in mind that the front foot controls the offside turn, the rear foot controls the onside. Moving the back foot back will sharpen the onside turn and moving the front foot forward will make it turn sharper on the offside. You can use this to your advantage. Most mid level skiers should probably ski with the front binding 1 hole forward of neutral.
          Shane Hill
          2014 Team 200OB
          67 '13 Prophecy

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          • M3Fan
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 1034



            #6
            Re: Truth

            Originally posted by 2004196
            Best adjustment is a circular saw, in thirds so it will fit in the garbage. Get a better ski or you will suffer being on the Truth, and that's the truth!

            Rip it up!
            It's not that bad a ski. I had my first pass ever on that ski. Have you personally skied it? I know a shortline skier that still skis one and has no problem with it.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            2000 Ski Nautique GT-40
            2016 SN 200 H5
            www.Fifteenoff.com

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            • 2gofaster
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2008
              • 671

              • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


              #7
              RE: Re: Truth

              No, it's not that bad. The Phantom Truth was a big ol POS, but the Truth was ok. Like most of it's HO brethren over the last 5 or 6 years, though, it's very finicky when it comes to fin adjustments.
              Shane Hill
              2014 Team 200OB
              67 '13 Prophecy

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              • 2004196
                • Dec 2007
                • 162

                • University Place, WA

                • 2006 196LE

                #8
                Truth

                You can probably count the skiers on a Truth on one hand and have fingers left over. Yes, I have one, 66" '04, I'l llet you or anyone have for $50.00 plus shipping, blank w/ fin. I also have a Monza, 66" '05, had some tip damage but has been fixed. Did not and will not effect performance, $75.00 plus shipping (actual, not inflated shipping and handling crap).
                2004 196 LE Black/Grey
                330HP Excalibur Water Churner
                2002 Grey F150 Harley
                475+HP Supercharged Tire Burner

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                • benton55
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 16

                  • Connecticut


                  #9
                  Fin Settings

                  Can some of you post your fin "depths" for Tip and Tail. My ski is riding a wheelie and I'm thinking the depth and location front to back will help to lower the front of the ski. Don't mean to steal the thread here...but I think this follows the original post.

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                  • east tx skier
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1561

                    • Tyler, TX


                    #10
                    Whatever the ski, start with stock settings. This means you'll need calipers. Make sure your boots are stock as well (typical HO setup is front boot one hold back from center; rear boot two holes back from center). Then, go ski and take some video. Get an idea of what you think the ski needs to do, i.e., more tip out of the turn, etc. Then, watch the video to verify this. Start with the boots. Make one adjustment at a time and ski to see if it's an improvement. Once you've done everything you can with the boots, go to the fin if necessary.

                    www.goode.com has a good explanation as to what fin adjustment does what.
                    1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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