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  • prairiethunder
    • May 2009
    • 84



    Fat skis

    looking for opinions on wider skis. i had my hips replaced three years ago and want to get back slaloming. got on 2 skis this year...... try the slalom in a couple weeks on holidays. hadn't skied in 5 yrs due to hips. want a nice cruiser that will be fun but not let me get to aggressive. I think i would like to be limited by the ski to about 70% of full effort/potential (i think i'll want to go to hard if the ski will let me) I have never really skied the course and will only free ski. looking for fun but want to carve.

    outlaw? is this a stiff ski for what i want

    pilot? looks huge, big daddy?
    It\'s Good to be Here
    \'97 SN
  • ers906
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 921

    • Phoenix AZ

    • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

    #2
    The older I get the more I appreciate the Big Daddy ski. Everytime I decide to go hard on my Concept, I end up regretting it the next day
    Eric, Phoenix AZ

    G23 550 hp (finally here)
    2002 Super Air
    1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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    • prairiethunder
      • May 2009
      • 84



      #3
      how would you describe the big daddy's performance? can it carve a turn with some speed across the wake or does it wash out.

      ever ski any of the others? local shop has a pilot in stock i could demo. the outlaw is the ski i think i would want. but, the next day factor is reality... especially not having skied in so long
      It\'s Good to be Here
      \'97 SN

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      • ers906
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Feb 2010
        • 921

        • Phoenix AZ

        • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

        #4
        I equate the big daddy ski with doing a nice long carve down a ski mountain. You get the comfortvand a bit of the agility to feel like you are skiing but can no longer hit moguls. I tend to take wider deeper carves with good cuts but not worry about getting the rope ripped out ofbmy hands or stroetching my shoulders so far my knuckles drag (according to the fight I had w the gf tonight, I am a neandrthal)
        Eric, Phoenix AZ

        G23 550 hp (finally here)
        2002 Super Air
        1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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        • Mikeski
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 2908

          • San Francisco, CA

          • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

          #5
          I have an older HO Burner that is a nice lazy ski. Does most of what I ask it to do, just a lot slower than my Goode or Sixam. Be aware, if you ski behind a boat with large wakes the big ski may be harder on your hips as it bounces more over the wakes.

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          • ScrewPusher
            • Feb 2006
            • 77

            • Isle of Wight County, Va


            #6
            man this hits close to home. I've had both of my hips totally replaced last one being done in January. I have not even thought about deep water starts, but I have been contemplating pier starts or similar on 2 skis then drop. Some guys from here introduced me to wakesurfing 2 years ago at Smith Mountain Lake and that is my boating savior. Start from the platform and off you go. Plus 10MPH fall is real easy.
            Back to the original topic, I had a Big Daddy and used it up till surgury because it hurt too bad otherwise. I have an old KD redline and found the BD was great and relaxing just to be skiing.

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            • teamseal
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Dec 2006
              • 381

              • Panama city, Florida.

              • 2009 196 ZR-6

              #7
              Obrian Makes or did make a ski Called a SIXAM 2-Point the ski is not quite like a wide ride but is wider under the bindings then a standard SIXAM, The ski turns nice and accelerates like a rocket. It also works well at slower speeds 30-34mph. I would say this ski is a low/mid level to high end tournament ski as it is very stable and predictable. Good ski to learn shorter line lengths on. Contact Tadd At H2Ozmosiss he will have a low down on this ski or what replaced it or what it is now called and can give the best prices and information on other wide skis. 866 213 7993 tell em Florida Inboards sent ya!!!
              Cheers!
              Jody

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              • prairiethunder
                • May 2009
                • 84



                #8
                Originally posted by teamseal View Post
                Obrian Makes or did make a ski Called a SIXAM 2-Point the ski is not quite like a wide ride but is wider under the bindings then a standard SIXAM, The ski turns nice and accelerates like a rocket. It also works well at slower speeds 30-34mph. I would say this ski is a low/mid level to high end tournament ski as it is very stable and predictable. Good ski to learn shorter line lengths on. Contact Tadd At H2Ozmosiss he will have a low down on this ski or what replaced it or what it is now called and can give the best prices and information on other wide skis. 866 213 7993 tell em Florida Inboards sent ya!!!
                Cheers!
                Jody
                thanks for the recommendation maybe in a few years but it sounds like the ski i'm afraid of


                Originally posted by ScrewPusher View Post
                man this hits close to home. I've had both of my hips totally replaced last one being done in January. I have not even thought about deep water starts, but I have been contemplating pier starts or similar on 2 skis then drop. Some guys from here introduced me to wakesurfing 2 years ago at Smith Mountain Lake and that is my boating savior. Start from the platform and off you go. Plus 10MPH fall is real easy.
                Back to the original topic, I had a Big Daddy and used it up till surgury because it hurt too bad otherwise. I have an old KD redline and found the BD was great and relaxing just to be skiing.
                yeah i quit skiing all together due to pain. Got up on two didn't feel like trying to drop... at this point no point in pushing. A friend has a big block of Styrofoam that i used (like a dock start) good if no dock available and you can be dragged a little. I think off a tube would work too. 1 ski deep water not happening anytime soon

                I surf lots and it has been nice to get in the boat a do something rather than just hang out

                Originally posted by ers906 View Post
                I equate the big daddy ski with doing a nice long carve down a ski mountain. You get the comfortvand a bit of the agility to feel like you are skiing but can no longer hit moguls. I tend to take wider deeper carves with good cuts but not worry about getting the rope ripped out ofbmy hands or stroetching my shoulders so far my knuckles drag (according to the fight I had w the gf tonight, I am a neandrthal)
                great example! that surprises me that it will ski that way.... I think near term this is what i want to be doing. Generally I look at my athletic endevours as a retired guy. I like to have fun but not push the limits (no offence to anyone who is retired and can go full out. Enjoy it!)

                Has anyone tried the Pilot? it appears by the "more awesome graphics" it is a tich more agressive. I think the outlaw is in the dangerous category for me at this time. I really want a ski to have fun on and sell it if I get to "awesome" rather than starting out with to much ski
                It\'s Good to be Here
                \'97 SN

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                • teamseal
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 381

                  • Panama city, Florida.

                  • 2009 196 ZR-6

                  #9
                  Any ski will be as dangerous as you make it!

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                  • maxpower220
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 116

                    • Florida


                    #10
                    I have a Pilot for the "boat ski" when people see me ski and then want to try. It is a 28 mph ski and it has a side cut. It does fine for what it is designed to do. Easy to get up and very stable. It will cut well, but don't push it really hard or try to ski it at 36 mph.

                    My wife skis on a Connelly FX. It is a shaped ski and it is a great overall ski. The side cut makes it "fall" into turns, which you may or may not like. It can ski well slow or at 36 mph. It's size in the front and back make it easier to get up and fairly stable.

                    Good luck with your quest.

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                    • prairiethunder
                      • May 2009
                      • 84



                      #11
                      to all

                      thanks for the advise.... it has pushed me to really start with a comparo of the big daddy and pilot. I like the idea of having a good boat ski for non-skiers who want to try.


                      teamseal
                      Like many other thing's skis are only as dangerous as you make them. (i agree) but while getting back "on the horse" i need to stick with a horse on it's way to the glue factory not the Kentucky derby.

                      When I was skiing often i skied a friends KD 7000. I was just out of high-school and was about 5'11" and 160lbs (maybe). I had to rail that ski at the time to get it to ski... just don't want to see what happens to artificial hips when crashing @ 100% effort.

                      to me BD or Pilot have "governors" on them with slower boat speed.... should equal safer falls
                      It\'s Good to be Here
                      \'97 SN

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                      • madcityskier
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 58

                        • Madison, WI


                        #12
                        I've been riding a big daddy for years. Out of the box it's fairly stable, slow and lazy, but can carve a turn if you lay it on edge. If you tend to ride the tip at all in the preturn be sure to throw a wing on the fin or it'll blow out fast. With some tweeking the ski can be made wonderously more aggressive, while still sparing your body the backlash. Also, the extra surface area gets you up with less stress, and allows you to ski at lower speeds.

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