Underwater LED aftermarket

[PKKup]

Has anyone had issues or installed UW LEDs? Will this actually void warranty, even if I have dealership install? Kicking myself I didn't get them done during the build.

[nyryan2001]

Federal law prohibits some type of a blanket void of a warranty for unrelated issues. What you suggest can not happen. Now, if you have a bad install done and it leaks and causes damage.... Then of course that would not be covered. I know the Gs are pre wired for under water LEDs, likely yours is too. Not sure why you are kicking yourself. $850 for about 1600lumens going OEM, $400 gets you over 5000lumens going after market. Not all that difficult of a task to add them, lots of options to choose from.

[PKKup]

My dealership is saying it will void warranty. Of course I'd like to save $, but seems like since it wasn't done at the factory it's not an option for me anymore. Unless I'm willing to void, and I'm not on a brand new boat. Ill call nautique direct and see what they say. Any brand you like in particular?




QUOTE=nyryan2001;222880]Federal law prohibits some type of a blanket void of a warranty for unrelated issues. What you suggest can not happen. Now, if you have a bad install done and it leaks and causes damage.... Then of course that would not be covered. I know the Gs are pre wired for under water LEDs, likely yours is too. Not sure why you are kicking yourself. $850 for about 1600lumens going OEM, $400 gets you over 5000lumens going after market. Not all that difficult of a task to add them, lots of options to choose from.[/QUOTE]

[Zach@n3]

Uhhhhh we install aftermarket leds on almost every boat that comes in.

[nyryan2001]

Well, if you what you are saying is accurate.... tell your dealer he in in violation of the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act, a United States federal law, (15 U.S.C. § 2301 et seq.) enacted in 1975.

Blanket statements threatening void of a warranty are complete BS and opens them to a lawsuit if they were to deny an unrelated claim. Suggest you have a chat with your dealer/owner and tell them to wake up and that this type of rhetoric relfects poorly on them and Nautique... trying to scare folks away from DIY projects with unsubstantiated threats is a garbage business practice. Now, advising the customer of the potential risks of a poorly DIY job certainly IS good business. But saying you loose your warranty because of a LED install is 100% BS.

Now again.... if you were to do a shoddy LED install, and that install caused damage(leak, water damage, electrical damage, fire).... then yes of course, that would not be covered. But in reality a LED install is about a 2/10 on the dificulty scale to get it right, since the boats are already pre-wired, electrical, LINC, fusing etc is already done and in place.

You WILL need your dealer to go into dealer level settings in your LINC to change the settings from factory defaults to where the underwater lights option become active for the LED circuit on your LINC. takes about 3 minutes.

OK-

1. OEM LEDs are about 800 lumens ea, so 1600 lumens for about $850? = $.53 cents per lumen

2. Hurley Puck LEDs are 1200 lu each, $175 ea, so 2400lu a pair combined for $350 = about $.14 cents per lumen

3. Lifeform 9s cost $350 a pair when on FB sale for a combined 5274 lu = $. 06 cents per lumen

4. Roswell 6" Pro LEDs 9000 lu combined for $1000?? = $.11 cents per lumen

5. Shadow Caster 10V2s, $600ea, $1200 pair, 4000 lu = $ .30 cents per lumen


I have ran 3 configurations:

This is a single 1200 lu puck LED on my Malibu:



This is what 2 Hurley Puck LEDs looks like, this is 2400 lumen:





And on my current G I just put in a pair of Lifeform 9s, 5274 lumen... I havent put it in the water yet, so we'll see how doubling the lumen really translates to brightness:

[Laketexoma]

Where did you find the Lifeforms 9s for 350.00 a pair?

[nyryan2001]

Like them on Facebook.... they run coupon codes and promotions periodically.

[PKKup]

I want the dealership to do it. I would never attempt. I'm under the impression them doing it, voids warranty.thats how I heard it it. I'll ask again. Thanks for the reply. Huge help!!!

Well, if you what you are saying is accurate.... tell your dealer he in in violation of the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act, a United States federal law, (15 U.S.C. § 2301 et seq.) enacted in 1975.

Blanket statements threatening void of a warranty are complete BS and opens them to a lawsuit if they were to deny an unrelated claim. Suggest you have a chat with your dealer/owner and tell them to wake up and that this type of rhetoric relfects poorly on them and Nautique... trying to scare folks away from DIY projects with unsubstantiated threats is a garbage business practice. Now, advising the customer of the potential risks of a poorly DIY job certainly IS good business. But saying you loose your warranty because of a LED install is 100% BS.

Now again.... if you were to do a shoddy LED install, and that install caused damage(leak, water damage, electrical damage, fire).... then yes of course, that would not be covered. But in reality a LED install is about a 2/10 on the dificulty scale to get it right, since the boats are already pre-wired, electrical, LINC, fusing etc is already done and in place.

You WILL need your dealer to go into dealer level settings in your LINC to change the settings from factory defaults to where the underwater lights option become active for the LED circuit on your LINC. takes about 3 minutes.

OK-

1. OEM LEDs are about 800 lumens ea, so 1600 lumens for about $850? = $.53 cents per lumen

2. Hurley Puck LEDs are 1200 lu each, $175 ea, so 2400lu a pair combined for $350 = about $.14 cents per lumen

3. Lifeform 9s cost $350 a pair when on FB sale for a combined 5274 lu = $. 06 cents per lumen

4. Roswell 6" Pro LEDs 9000 lu combined for $1000?? = $.11 cents per lumen

5. Shadow Caster 10V2s, $600ea, $1200 pair, 4000 lu = $ .30 cents per lumen


I have ran 3 configurations:

This is a single 1200 lu puck LED on my Malibu:



This is what 2 Hurley Puck LEDs looks like, this is 2400 lumen:





And on my current G I just put in a pair of Lifeform 9s, 5274 lumen... I havent put it in the water yet, so we'll see how doubling the lumen really translates to brightness:

[PKKup]

If you guys do the install, does it change warranty in any way?

Uhhhhh we install aftermarket leds on almost every boat that comes in.

[4th ski-doo]

I used BulletLines on my last boat and have them going on the new boat.


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[Connor]

Lumens is an unqualified spec within the underwater light business and very hard to compare from brand to brand.

Look at the amperage draw. The efficiency of underwater LED lights run fairly consistent. In my experience, the amperage draw and brightness ran parallel.

I have (2) Lumitec Seablaze 3s in blue and they are amazing. Probably not quite as bright as the one listed due to slightly less amp draw, but are significantly cheaper than some other out there... see the link for the best price I've found

http://www.tacticalwholesalers.com/L...8_p_92725.html

[Connor]

[PKKup]

Anyone have experience w/ Roswell ? My dealership will do it. Just need to pick a pair and color. I'd love orange. If money wasn't an option what's your first choice ? Thanks!!!

[nyryan2001]

Here's a follow up on this discussion... Lifeform 9's-

Water here in this pic was terrible, nasty north wind had the south side of my lake looking nearly as bad as the caramel version of Mississippi. Filthy.

Very very happy with their performance and output. Whatever the beam angle is, I like it. Looks awesome underway, Iike something out of Star Wars. Satisfaction level is like with Rev10s.... 1 pair will thrill 99% of folks, zero desire for more.

[obd666]

Lifeforms 15% off thru the end of this week, promo code "LFLED15" ... still haven't seen them anywhere close to $350 a pair for 9's tho