Ronix Timebomb or Hyperlite Murray?

[thejean]

Gonna get a new wakeboard this winter. I’m a beginner but progressing quick so want an intermediate to advanced board. The Timebomb looks awesome but so does the Murray. Want soft and forgiving landings. Thoughts?

[NautiqueJeff]

Love the Murray boards. I have ridden those since the beginning.

[thejean]

Love the Murray boards. I have ridden those since the beginning.

Thanks Jeff! So what specifically do you like about the Murray? And have you ridden any of the Timebomb series ever?

[shag]

Anyone know the difference between the time bomb and the timebomb ATR? I think it is just construction..

[thejean]

Anyone know the difference between the time bomb and the timebomb ATR? I think it is just construction..

Yes I believe so. The ATR is a tad bit heavier and a bit more rugged is my understanding. But it also doesn’t pop quite as much as the Timebomb apparently either.

[Kmayotte]

I've ridden both. I ride a 2018 Murray. My daily riding partner rides a Time Bomb and I've given it a go a few times.

The Murray is more predictable and lands softer.
The Time Bomb has a smaller sweet spot but when you connect it it's more booty and lively than the Murray. I had trouble getting it to connect on the lip every-time. Just a more advanced board.

For your skill level I would go with the Murray hands down.

The ATR is the lower level Time Bomb material (still a very nice board). The higher level one has a carbon stringer I believe. My buddy broke that model pretty quickly actually (bought it thinking it was stronger). He's riding the lower level now.

I would say both Ronix constructions are nicer than the Murray construction just by an eye test but my Murray has held up to all the abuse so far.

[thejean]

I've ridden both. I ride a 2018 Murray. My daily riding partner rides a Time Bomb and I've given it a go a few times.

The Murray is more predictable and lands softer.
The Time Bomb has a smaller sweet spot but when you connect it it's more booty and lively than the Murray. I had trouble getting it to connect on the lip every-time. Just a more advanced board.

For your skill level I would go with the Murray hands down.

The ATR is the lower level Time Bomb material (still a very nice board). The higher level one has a carbon stringer I believe. My buddy broke that model pretty quickly actually (bought it thinking it was stronger). He's riding the lower level now.

I would say both Ronix constructions are nicer than the Murray construction just by an eye test but my Murray has held up to all the abuse so far.

Ok that’s really great info! Thanks so much. You’re one of the few that have ridden both and provided a great explanation of the the differences. I was originally leaning towards the Murray but of course one always thinks they can handle the more advanced equipment when in fact that’s not always the case. Just like running my G23 at full ballast and 25 mph - sure my boat can do it but I would die trying it! Lol

[Kmayotte]

Ok that’s really great info! Thanks so much. You’re one of the few that have ridden both and provided a great explanation of the the differences. I was originally leaning towards the Murray but of course one always thinks they can handle the more advanced equipment when in fact that’s not always the case. Just like running my G23 at full ballast and 25 mph - sure my boat can do it but I would die trying it! Lol

No worries. I changed my G setup this year from 70' @ 23.5 mph to 65' @ 22mph (full ballast). I consider myself an advanced but not expert rider (several invert variations heelside & toeside). The slowing down of the boat made the impacts much softer and my riding improved. I like the wake shape better too. My buddy rides at 70% ballast as he tends to power through the wake and ride very aggressively whereas I have more finesse for pop and like the extra meatiness of the wake.

[thejean]

No worries. I changed my G setup this year from 70' @ 23.5 mph to 65' @ 22mph (full ballast). I consider myself an advanced but not expert rider (several invert variations heelside & toeside). The slowing down of the boat made the impacts much softer and my riding improved. I like the wake shape better too. My buddy rides at 70% ballast as he tends to power through the wake and ride very aggressively whereas I have more finesse for pop and like the extra meatiness of the wake.

Do you find a significant variation in firmness of the water at say 21 mph to 22 or 23 mph? I currently run no ballast, 55’ and 21 mph. Was thinking about speeding up and lengthening the rope. Or going more ballast. Not sure... but I’m 43 year old and these old bones can’t handle too many big crashes! I only just started going W2W but have only wakeboarded a few times as well. Also I’m currently on a 2010 Ronix One 138 (180 lbs) and it’s a tough board to get the hang of (somewhat advanced from what I understand) so that may be holding me back also. If I go Murray 145 everything just seems like it will be better and I might not need to go faster or add ballast right away. Thoughts?

[Kmayotte]

I think you'll see a world of difference once you go from the Ronix One to the Murray especially if you upsize to the 145. I guarantee pop will be more consistent and landings will be softer. Shawn Murray is 42, age is just a number!!

If you're solid wake-to-wake you can start lengthening the line. With more line comes a better wake shape/lip and more speed comes a firmer wake. 22-23 mph is the money spot of firm wake without having the impacts of fall be too intense. The G wake without ballast is still bigger than a lot of wakes on top of the line slammed wakeboats from the 2000's so there's plenty there to learn on without adding ballast.

Don't forget about learning toe-side. No heelside hero's haha!

[thejean]

I think you'll see a world of difference once you go from the Ronix One to the Murray especially if you upsize to the 145. I guarantee pop will be more consistent and landings will be softer. Shawn Murray is 42, age is just a number!!

If you're solid wake-to-wake you can start lengthening the line. With more line comes a better wake shape/lip and more speed comes a firmer wake. 22-23 mph is the money spot of firm wake without having the impacts of fall be too intense. The G wake without ballast is still bigger than a lot of wakes on top of the line slammed wakeboats from the 2000's so there's plenty there to learn on without adding ballast.

Don't forget about learning toe-side. No heelside hero's haha!

Once again, awesome info and greatly appreciated you taking the time to post it.

Been watching lots of toe side instructional videos not to mention a host of others. I can do them all with my eyes closed but now I need to do them on the water with my eyes open (instead of in my dreams while sleeping)! But I still have all winter to dream before I put this learning and new board to the test. lol

[mtt201819]

thejean if you're 180 lbs, a 138 is too small. You want the 145 Murray (maybe even the 150) or the 146 One board. Here are the break downs of the boards

Ronix One:
Aggressive 3 stage rocker = instant vertical pop, large flat spot
Speedwalls = ABS sidewall gives the board more glidespeed, make it easier to gain and keep speed. That means less drag on your body
Fuse Stringers = Carbon rods that run tip to tail. These rods bend when you cut into the wake, and snap back into place when you leave the wake. They help boot you!
Timebomb VS. ATR = Both boards are the exact same shape and both use fuse stringers. ATR is a PU Foam core. Timebomb is a PVC core. Again, the board bends when you cut into the wake and snaps back to original shape when you leave the wake. PVC core snaps back quicker (and is lighter material) to boot you more. ATR is more durable than Timebomb

Hyperlite Murray
Subtle 3 stage rocker = Easier for everyone to ride (as it usual for Murray boards). Still vertical kick, but not as gnarly as the One board
Variable edges = Edges between the boots pushes water under board. So if you like to butterslide, this board tries hard to not catch an edge
Built like a spoon = Murray himself explained this. The center of the board is the high spot of the board. Think of a spoon you push bottom first into the water. It disperses the water. His board does the same. This means soft landings! That combined with the dual fins means the board actually centers you if you get a little off while landing.
Biolite core = Hyperlite's gold standard PU foam. Actually pretty durable design.

[thejean]

thejean if you're 180 lbs, a 138 is too small. You want the 145 Murray (maybe even the 150) or the 146 One board. Here are the break downs of the boards

Ronix One:
Aggressive 3 stage rocker = instant vertical pop, large flat spot
Speedwalls = ABS sidewall gives the board more glidespeed, make it easier to gain and keep speed. That means less drag on your body
Fuse Stringers = Carbon rods that run tip to tail. These rods bend when you cut into the wake, and snap back into place when you leave the wake. They help boot you!
Timebomb VS. ATR = Both boards are the exact same shape and both use fuse stringers. ATR is a PU Foam core. Timebomb is a PVC core. Again, the board bends when you cut into the wake and snaps back to original shape when you leave the wake. PVC core snaps back quicker (and is lighter material) to boot you more. ATR is more durable than Timebomb

Hyperlite Murray
Subtle 3 stage rocker = Easier for everyone to ride (as it usual for Murray boards). Still vertical kick, but not as gnarly as the One board
Variable edges = Edges between the boots pushes water under board. So if you like to butterslide, this board tries hard to not catch an edge
Built like a spoon = Murray himself explained this. The center of the board is the high spot of the board. Think of a spoon you push bottom first into the water. It disperses the water. His board does the same. This means soft landings! That combined with the dual fins means the board actually centers you if you get a little off while landing.
Biolite core = Hyperlite's gold standard PU foam. Actually pretty durable design.

Thanks for this info and the explanations to go with the marketing / technical jargon. I think I’ve decided to go with the 145 Murray. I’m not good enough yet to make use of a TB. And my knees need soft landings and my skill level demands consistency.

[thejean]

Board and boots ordered!!!

[srock]

Once you get comfortable the impact on your body will lesson as you develop some style. You may not push as hard as someone younger but you will get better each time out. For me at 54 years old the key is to keep riding and I could jump wake to wake all day long just as easy as walking down the street. Also, the Murray is a great choice. You may also consider getting another board that rides completely opposite to mix up the fun. I switch between the Murray and a Slingshot and they are totally different rides...it's fun.