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  • WakeUT
    • Aug 2019
    • 64

    • Utah

    • '01 SAN 210

    Surfboard for a smaller wake

    Looking for recommendations for a new wake surf board. 2001 SAN 210, we mostly wakeboard and only surf occasionally. We have been using a 53” O’Brien Alias, at times it can be hard to stay in, especially in rougher water or if I have my kids on the board with me.

    Looking potentially for something my wife and I could both ride. I am 6’ 185 lbs and she is 5 6” and much lighter. Probably won’t be doing a lot of tricks beyond trying to spin 360.

    Considering maybe Hyperlite quad 55 or Phase 5 Doctor 55 and open to other ideas as well.
  • bturner
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jun 2019
    • 1564

    • MI

    • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

    #2
    Any of the longer boards are going to give you an easier riding experience but with that comes limitations for tricks. I've owned both the Red Rocket and Blue Lake boards from Inland Surfer which in your weight range would be considered larger boards. Both worked well on smaller wakes.....

    https://www.inlandsurfer.com/store/r...rf-wakesurfing
    https://www.inlandsurfer.com/store/-...f-inlandsurfer

    If you're looking for something that will be more skim I'm currently riding a Phase 5 Model X which I've really enjoyed. Much lighter and easier board to do surface tricks with but it ain't cheap.

    https://phase5boards.com/pages/19-boards-modelx

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    • WakeUT
      • Aug 2019
      • 64

      • Utah

      • '01 SAN 210

      #3
      I hadnÂ’t considered the model x as I have been looking more toward surf style than skim but it looks promising.


      “The result is a board that is equipped to handle larger guys while not being too difficult for smaller riders to handle. The Model X can also shred small to medium sized waves extremely well. The board is fast and stable but still rips like a pro shape.”


      At least from the description it sounds like a good fit. Could handle multiple weight riders and different wake sizes and still work for a couple tricks here and there.

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      • FLKeysSurf
        • Sep 2019
        • 31

        • Key Largo

        • 2019 G25 Coastal (previously Yamaha 242LS, Centurion Typhoon, Mastercraft X30)

        #4
        WakeUT my wife and I both have high-end boards, but we keep a HyperLite Broadcast in the locker as the "boat board", great for beginners/mid-level riders, inexpensive, tough construction so you don't need to handle it with kit gloves, and super fun to just chill-cruise back home after a long day.

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        • WakeUT
          • Aug 2019
          • 64

          • Utah

          • '01 SAN 210

          #5
          Broadcast isn't one that I had looked at, but have to admit being able to find one for under $300 is tempting. Price isn't the biggest factor, but that is much cheaper than most of the others I was considering and it looks like it meets a lot of what I am looking for. One site is showing a weight range of 80-190 lbs which means my kids will potentially will be able to use pretty soon.

          We are much more casual surfers than wakeboarders so I may go that route.

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          • FLKeysSurf
            • Sep 2019
            • 31

            • Key Largo

            • 2019 G25 Coastal (previously Yamaha 242LS, Centurion Typhoon, Mastercraft X30)

            #6
            WakeUT Not sure if you pulled the trigger on a board already, but another positive experience with the Broadcast. We were on Lake Powell last week and tuned our wave way down for a newbie surfer, she was riding with slack in the rope by mid-week. The board was initially a bit loose in a 2-fin setup, so we installed the larger third fin and it tracked really nicely and allowed her to progress quickly. BTW, perfect week at Powell, always a special place ...

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            • WakeUT
              • Aug 2019
              • 64

              • Utah

              • '01 SAN 210

              #7
              Originally posted by FLKeysSurf View Post
              WakeUT Not sure if you pulled the trigger on a board already, but another positive experience with the Broadcast. We were on Lake Powell last week and tuned our wave way down for a newbie surfer, she was riding with slack in the rope by mid-week. The board was initially a bit loose in a 2-fin setup, so we installed the larger third fin and it tracked really nicely and allowed her to progress quickly. BTW, perfect week at Powell, always a special place ...
              I was there too, love that place. My first time surfing behind our 210 and it is a big upgrade over the wakesetter it replaced. I had no problem at all staying in the wave without the rope until my son got on the board with me.

              I am leaning towards Broadcast. Anything would be a big upgrade over the board we have. If I decide to upgrade later I’ll look at something specific for just me instead of a wide range.

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              • 03SANTE
                • Sep 2018
                • 166

                • PA

                • 2003 SANTE

                #8
                One more for a Broadcast. Fan favorite on our 03!

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                • XBIGPUN66
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 456

                  • WI

                  • 2014 SAN 210 TE. NSS. Pro ballast.

                  #9
                  Soulcraft.

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                  Ian S
                  2014 SANTE. NSS. Pro balllast. Boatmate trailer
                  2004 SANTE. 4000 lb ballast, 2013 graphics (prev). Ramlin trailer
                  2009 Moomba Outback (prev). Boatmate trailer

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                  • kdonzi123
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 88

                    • Lake Hopatcong

                    • 2018 230

                    #10
                    Before we moved into a new Nautique , our older 230 we used the model x and still do to this day. My wife loves the board and does all kinds of tricks on it. I rode it for a few years before switching to the Matrix. Even though i was 190lb we rode a 53 and never had a issue. We did use the carbon fiber model . It is also great for everyone to use.
                    Good Luck.

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                    • Evening Shade
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 1295

                      • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                      • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                      #11
                      I've had trouble finding a board that we can easily go ropeless behind our GS20 (we are beginner surfers). All these positive responses for the Broadcast are promising. I may have to try one out.
                      2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                      • Adrenaline1
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 199

                        • MI

                        • 2019 GS22

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
                        I've had trouble finding a board that we can easily go ropeless behind our GS20 (we are beginner surfers). All these positive responses for the Broadcast are promising. I may have to try one out.
                        Can you post any video or even pics of you surfing, and explain your boat setup and lake depth? We were new to surfing this year and have a GS22. We started with a broadcast as well, and it is great to start but once you are surfing without the rope and looking to progress you will likely want something else.

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                        • Evening Shade
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 1295

                          • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                          • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Adrenaline1;Hen595275

                          Can you post any video or even pics of you surfing, and explain your boat setup and lake depth? We were new to surfing this year and have a GS22. We started with a broadcast as well, and it is great to start but once you are surfing without the rope and looking to progress you will likely want something else.
                          I don't have any videos of me surfing. Current board is a Ronix Koal Technora Powertail. Using stock ballast mostly, but will occasionally add sacks to the rear lockers and under the bow seats. Will usually slightly bias the weight to the surf side. Tried many different NCRS/NSS settings, but haven't settled on one best setting. Speed 10.8-11.2. Lake depth 20-40 feet. I'm 6ft tall and weigh 190#.

                          The wave seems short, with a postage size sweet spot. I am able to go ropeless with my current board, but even the slightest wrong move and I fall out the back of the wave.

                          Above is a pic of our wave.
                          Last edited by Evening Shade; 10-03-2019, 12:47 PM.
                          2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                          • Adrenaline1
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 199

                            • MI

                            • 2019 GS22

                            #14
                            There are certainly others here that will know more but...It is hard to tell from the pics how tall the wave is exactly but it does look long enough. On our 22 we had much more success at 11.2 for adults. 10.8 seemed too slow to get enough "push". We also found that we did not even need to go 100% full on the pro ballast. We found that NSS and NCRS set each around 2 or 3 was nice. We can easily run 50-65% in the rears and 60-80% in the front. Adjusting the NSS and NCRS seemed to make a bigger difference when we were not fully ballasted. It allowed for quick easy adjustments in the bow height that translated to the wave. When we were at 100% full (which hasn't been in a while so my opinion may change now that I have progressed) adjusting the NSS and NCRS didn't seem to make as noticeable of a difference. We have a 5'4" Broadcast and a Doomswell Neo which I really like. If you can get some video I am sure you can get some great help here or on the Nautique FB page also.

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                            • WakeUT
                              • Aug 2019
                              • 64

                              • Utah

                              • '01 SAN 210

                              #15
                              I ended up picking up a Broadcast after finding a really good deal. Now just have to wait a few months to try it out.

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