Anybody wear helmets on a reg. basis?

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  • azwakeboarder
    • Feb 2007
    • 83



    #16
    Get the Shred Ready Helmet! The HOG system makes it fit better than any helmet I have tried on! Not to tight, but not loose either...



    H.O.G. Lock Retention System Upgrade
    The Hand Of God (H.O.G.) Lock Retention System is standard on Shred Ready composite helmets and the Super Scrappy. It features two opposing micro adjusting ratchets on. Each ratchet tightens two mono-filiment lines that make for the prefect positive fit. The ratchets and anchors are attached to a coated PVC harness lamented and stitched to closed cell foam.


    BTW, your physics or lack there of is wrong, a 10 # bag of lead falls at the same speed a 10 # bag of ping pong balls fall. The larger surface actually spreads the force over the larger surface area while the pole has a much more focused force, but both are the same as far as forces go. As far as decceleration goes I would much rather be hit in the head with a 10 # block of wood versus the 10# pole. The pole would probably go through my skull while the block would just dent it. I don't really get it in the head alot though and it appears as though you have more experiance in this subject than me.

    Kids...put the phone down, text someone later and read a stinking math or physics book sometime...

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    • C-Money
      • May 2007
      • 74

      • Kansas City


      #17
      As far as decceleration goes I would much rather be hit in the head with a 10 # block of wood versus the 10# pole. The pole would probably go through my skull while the block would just dent it.
      Exactly! This is why less surface area when talking about water is better! Try to be less arrogant in your comments...

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      • keegan99usa
        • Jul 2007
        • 15

        • WISCONSIN


        #18
        Actually, less surface are would be the pole and more force per sq. inch so you would want MORE surface area to divide the impact.

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        • C-Money
          • May 2007
          • 74

          • Kansas City


          #19
          I actually think helmets look kind of cool, I just don't have one and don't have it as a high priority on my list of boat items...

          I wouldn't do sliders, ramps, or ski jumping without one because there is a chance that my head would hit the lumber. That is a different scenario. When I'm just riding behind the boat my preference is no helmet...

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          • wakecrashin
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • May 2007
            • 376



            #20
            Leave the math out of it:

            Let me hit you in the head with water from a firehose off a firetruck with and without the helmet. Feel less impact with the helmet?

            To put in a a better perspective:
            Take a raley crash with and without a life jacket. With a life jacket you take some of the force away from your midsection into the vest.

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            • jjackkrash
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2007
              • 498

              • PacNW

              • 2021 Ski

              #21
              I don't know s*it about physics, but I have hit the water in about every conceivable way. I was a professional high diver and Jump was my best waterskiing event (I was pretty good, but not elite). I have been unconcious on the back of a swim step on more times than I wish to admit, and also hauled out of the pool with broken ribs, blown eardrums, broken noses, a cleaned-out colon, and just about every other minor injury that you could think of. In sum, I am short on brains and talent, but I have a pretty good idea on how to krash.

              With this said, I think a helmet offers good protection from flying equipment (like a jumper flying off and craking your helmut when you hit the water--I was glad I was wearing a helmut) or the ramp (i've hit my head on the ramp as well when I was late and caught the skirt--I'm glad I had the helmut on) and it possibly helps with ear injuries, but I don't think a helmut helps much for the "seeing stars" type injuries when you hit the water flat. If you hit the water and stop (like a belly flop) it is the decelleration that hurts. That is what blows retnas and breaks ribs (a jump suit with padding helps some, but not much, in my opinion). If you are entering the water head first, you are not going to slow down like you would if your body hit the water flat, so I don't think a helmut would help or hurt much in any event--a helmut just isn't going to materially effect the rate of decelleration. I have hit the water flat from about 80 feet up (diving) and didn't sink more than about 12 inches, and have had similar crashes on jumpers. These are the types of crahses I hate the most because none of the protective equiptment availble really helps that much. You stop fast and you hurt for a long time--period. Even if you are just tricking at about 16 mph, if you catch an edge and hit flat, you can easily get the wind knocked out of you. On the other hand, if you enter the water head first, you don't decellerate very fast, but you can tweak things--like your neck--as you are entering the water. This would be the only downside I can see to a helmut is if the water somehow catches it and tweaks your neck.

              In short, I don't see a real big downside to wearing a helmut; they offer protection from equiptment and ear injuries; and you can paint your nickname of the back or draw designs on them and make a nice fashion statement. But they don't help much when you hit the water and you stop really fast. And they may increase the risk of tweaking your neck if water catches it in a weird way on a head-first entry.

              Just my 4 cents.

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              • FatBoy
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Mar 2004
                • 756

                • Eastern North Carolina


                #22
                I only Sky Ski now and I wear one. But I get a lot higher up in the air than I used to when I rode the wakeboard.
                Life is Short, Live it!
                http://www.teamcarolina.us/index.htm

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                • Andrew
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 891

                  • Tuscaloosa, AL


                  #23
                  az, while i don't disagree with anything u have said in regards of surface area and force........ none of that has anything to do with fluid dynamics. simple fact of the matter is that increased surface area will decrease acceleration. yes ur 10#'s of lead will fall at the same speed as a 10# bag of ping pong balls IN A VACUUM, BUT in the REAL WORLD ur bag of ping pong balls will take longer to hit the ground because its weight:surface area ratio is FAR different than the lead's. try this little example out: jump out of a plane without a parachute.... how bad does the air hurt? now jump out with a parachute..... ur gonna feel a nice snatch when it opens. in this case ur helmet is the parachute (although not a very effective one) and it WILL decrease ur acceleration quicker than no helmet will. granted, in most cases the helmets padding will absorb most of the rapid decceleration and u will see better results than u would without it.........

                  anyway, i just wanted to point out that u are WRONG! quit being a prick and add fluid dynamics and SPELLING to ur course of study

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                  • wakecrashin
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2007
                    • 376



                    #24
                    What Andrew said!

                    Wear a helmet!

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                    • MarisAnder
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1

                      • News York


                      #25
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                      Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the sequel to Super Mario Galaxy for the Wii. ... *Just Like the Original Galaxy Game, the BGM on this one stops on the ...samsung galaxy tab cables

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                      • AirTool
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4049

                        • Katy, Texas


                        #26
                        Originally posted by MarisAnder View Post
                        Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the sequel to Super Mario Galaxy for the Wii. ... *Just Like the Original Galaxy Game, the BGM on this one stops on the ...samsung galaxy tab cables
                        That's great. I hope Mario is wearing his helmet....and is as Super as he says he is.

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                        • xrichard
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 667

                          • El Dorado Hills

                          • 2023 G23

                          #27
                          FWIW, I use a helmet regularly. I've had serious concussions (e.g. loss of memory (with and without a helmet) and once loss of consciousness (without helmet)). I now choose to wear one all the time because it seems the least risk course to me. Yes, the increase in surface area might cause faster deceleration. However, at higher speeds, I do not think that this increase (if any) will be meaningful. At some speed, the surface of the water is hard and your head will bounce whether you're wearing a helmet or not. If you're head is bouncing anyway, then the helmet is not increasing your deceleration. Additionally, the helmet provides padding...which slows deceleration.

                          My experience suggests that the greater deceleration, if present, is marginal. Otherwise I'd expect to have other injuries (e.g. more head injuries and/or neck injuries) while wearing a helmet. This is simply not the case. In other words, if there is greater deceleration then more energy is being transferred to my head and body instead of being dissipated to the water via displacement (e.g. splash and pushing water to the side).

                          In addition, a helmet provides direct impact protection. This is a benefit both for impact on water alone and the unlikely chance I impact something in the water. I often ride on the Sacramento River and there's quite a bit of wood, etc., floating down the river. If I'm going to hit a piece of driftwood, I'd much rather do it while wearing a helmet.

                          On a related topic, if you're getting concussions (or at risk for getting them), I'd encourage you to look into it. In the last 10-15 years, a lot of research has shown they are probably much more of a long-term problem than once thought. After doing a lot of reading, I stopped doing harder tricks that put me at risk. I've had a number of serious head hits and I'm not willing to take any more knowing what I know now.
                          Last edited by xrichard; 08-28-2012, 09:00 AM.
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                          • saceone
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • May 2008
                            • 650

                            • Montréal


                            #28
                            no helmets when we surf...obviously.


                            OP is a badass *tu*

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