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  • zapada
    • Jul 2008
    • 112

    • Sun Valley, ID


    Skiing Makes a Comeback!

    I had a thought occure to me this weekend; I think skiing is going to make a silent and certain comeback. I started to think about the boating activities that are coming online every year. This weekend I watched my family use a wakeboard kite to enhance the lift and hangtime either while you're wakeboarding or trick-sking, etc. It looked rediculous, but it made things a little more entertaining too. Does that mean they were bored before? Think about all the activities that are marketed to us boaters: skiing, wakeboarding, kite tubing, kite wakeboarding, kneeboarding, airchair (skyski), surfing, boarding, parasailing (evidently), barefooting, and the list grows exponetially with all the towables out there. I'm sure that there are activities that I haven't even emagined yet. All these things designed to either make something easier or more exhilerating (or to cheat fundamental principles). I think that fundamentally many of them are flawed.

    Skiing requires skills and techniques that can only be accomplished through progressive steps and practice. There is no short-cut to skiing the course at 28 off. If you cut the rope before skiing the course at 15 off AT SPEED (36 mph/ 34) then you have deprived yourself of certain fundamental techniques that have not yet been mastered. The path of progression is very clear and cannot be circumvented.

    Wakeboarding also encompasses many of the same principles. The airchair also has progressive steps of acheivement. Those activities are definately here to stay and should be valued. Note that anything out in a boat is better for your family than staying at home. That's not my point.

    My real point is that skiing is genuine and real. It won't be long before kids realize that the most difficult accomplishments are also the most valuable and rewarding. Many will tire of the various activies and equipment that have sprung up in recent years and they will look to fill the desires they have for boating with something that has lasting muscle. Do yourself and your family a favor, teach them how ski first because it will last them forever.

    Although nothing is like the 196, I've skied behind every Nautique V-Drive out there. For teaching basic principles, each boat is just fine. This is no lie, I skied behind the 226 this weekend. You won't be chasing buoy's, but your family won't know the difference.
  • SkiTundra
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2008
    • 513

    • Unknown


    #2
    Something that may drive many people back to skiing is what wakeboarding does to and requires from bodies. There seem to be a growing number of wakeboarders complaining of hip/back problems and I know of 2 people who wakeboarded for a while but went back to skiing because of this.[/b]

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    • Nautiqueman
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Mar 2004
      • 487

      • Birmingham, AL

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      #3
      When I was rehabing a knee from surgery and saw how bad a 21 year old guy was injured from the blown out knee from wakeboarding, I realized I should be thankful for 30 years of slalom skiing and have not boarded since.

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      • qstufflebeam
        • Nov 2007
        • 74

        • Location


        #4
        Well said, all those activities are fun but they reach their limits fairly quickly. Not that there aren't some very difficult wakeboard moves or tricks on the air chair. Neither of those requires the same number of hours to master as does the slalom course. I have young childern and I am teaching them to ski first. That way if they decide to wakeboard at some point they will have already learned the basic skills of skiing and can go back to it if they choose.

        It's interesting that one of the people I ski with use to be a diehard wakeboarder, not any more. He is chasing bouys and doing very well. I also ski with a 62 year old, amazing. I wonder how many 62 year olds could through 1080 on a wake board.

        Unfortunaly, I don't see course skiing making a big comeback. In todays world of instant gratification the slow progression of skiing will discourage today's youth. Not to mention the difficulty of finding a place to ski. Unless you have access to private ski lakes or are willing to get up at the crack of dawn to avoid wallies on the lake, skiing will always be a sport for the diehards. And I love being a diehard!
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        • Justin1933
          • Feb 2005
          • 240

          • Orange County, CA

          • 2005 SV-211

          #5
          I just don't see skiing coming back at all. Maybe it is the area I am at, but I never see anyone under 40 still skiing. Everybody is either wakeboarding and/or wakesurfing. I grew up skiing and switch to wakeboarding when the skurfer came out. I still throw the ski on every once in awhile, but I quickly ditch it for the wakeboard.

          Neither skiing or wakeboarding is better than the other.

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          • SkiTower
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 2172

            • Clayton, NC


            #6
            Surprisingly, I see a lot of skiing by young people at Whitelake. Wakeboarding too, but this discussion is about skiing. One major difference between skiing and wakeboarding is that with skiing you want a light boat ideally with a driver and spotter, and with wakeboarding, you want a 'partyboat': big and heavy with as many people you can get. With this difference, skiing will only come back so far until manufacturers figure out a world class ski wake behind a party boat.
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            • NHcrossfan
              • Aug 2006
              • 112



              #7
              he's 11

              Here is my 11 year old-he wakeboards only after he skis


              Also attached is my daughter 1st successful trip that occurred this past weekend
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              • Nautiqueman
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Mar 2004
                • 487

                • Birmingham, AL

                • 1985 Southwind 20 1987 Ski Nautique - New 1989 Ski Nautique - New 1992 Ski Nautique 1997 Ski Nautique 1998 Ski Nautique - New 1989 Martinique 1999 Sport Nautique 1999 Air Nautique 1988 Ski Nautique 1998 Sport 2004 SV-211 - New 2005 SV-211 1993 Ski Nautique 2002 Ski Nautique - New yellow black 2002 Ski Nautique orange black 2002 Ski Nautique blue black 1999 Super Sport Masters blue 2006 220 TE - new Lime Green 1997 Ski Nautique red black 2000 Ski Nautique Masters - Navy

                #8
                3 skiers

                Here is a shot of my 15 and 7 year old skiing with me on two for the first time this past Sunday.

                Awesome feeling to have mom driving and the three of us skiing together. Where else can all the family do something so much fun at once?
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                • SNMike
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 1001

                  • Florida


                  #9
                  RE: he

                  Cool pics NH!!! Skiing is most definitely in my blood. I've been skiing for close to 30 years. I've been, and still do every week, drumming for 40 years. Taking good care of yourself means enjoying life well into later years, and I've ALWAYS done that. I'm 49. 8-)

                  Regards and health to all!!

                  Mikey PDT_002
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                  Ludwig Classic Mapple Double Bass/ Zildjian Overhead

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                  • SNMike
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 1001

                    • Florida


                    #10
                    Re: 3 skiers

                    Originally posted by Nautiqueman
                    Here is a shot of my 15 and 7 year old skiing with me on two for the first time this past Sunday.

                    Awesome feeling to have mom driving and the three of us skiing together. Where else can all the family do something so much fun at once?
                    No where else, that's where. :mrgreen: Very cool pics Nman!! Congrats!!

                    Mikey
                    2007 Ski Nautique 196 Limited/ PP/ Mods
                    Ludwig Classic Mapple Double Bass/ Zildjian Overhead

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                    • Erik
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 653

                      • New England


                      #11
                      RE: Re: 3 skiers

                      I agree. I believe that many wakeboarders who shun skiing are either too young & unexperienced to know much about the joys of skiing, or are simply posers. I also don't see *too* much anti-skiing stuff out there in the wake communities. If there is any, the comments are often bashed from wakeboarders who know about the joys of both.

                      We have combos, slalom skis, everything - and while we primarily wakeboard we very much enjoy sets on a slalom ski. Even more if the course is out and we have access to the slalom boat. I hope skiing makes a firm comeback.

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                      • WakeSlayer
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2069

                        • Silver Creek, MN

                        • 1968 Mustang

                        #12
                        RE: Re: 3 skiers

                        Funny. I am going to go out skiing for the first time in 6-7 years tomorrow night. I started kneeboarding in 94-95 when I figured I just wasn't going to become a better slalom skiier with riding partners dropping their skis and picking up boards. I have had a couple of injuries that have made me give that up now.
                        I am 41. I primarily surf nowadays, and occasionally barefoot. I am almost nervous to go ski, and cannot imagine how sore I am going to be Thursday, and holy smokes, even worse on Friday. But I cannot wait.
                        I completely agree with the immediate gratification part of boarding vs. slalom. I was pretty much flat on the ski and had not made any improvememt in years. I hopped on a board and was doing spins in a week, flips in a year, and just kept adding to it. The boats are part of it, as well. Who wants to slalom behind my wakebeast?
                        I doubt that skiing will make a big comeback, which is unfortuntate. However, as stated above, "you don't see too many 62 year olds throwing 1080's " Those of us that grew up riding a ski can come full circle back to it. What are all the kids that only board going to do when they cannot ride them anymore?
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                        • Mikeski
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2908

                          • San Francisco, CA

                          • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

                          #13
                          RE: Re: 3 skiers

                          I am 46 and do it all... Ski, Wakeboard, Surf, Air-Chair, Barefoot, Parasail... bring it on. The old 74" jumpers have not been off the ramp in about 10 years, I'm sad to say it is doubtful I will ever enjoy the flight of a 100'+ jump ever again. Back surgery in 2006 did put a little damper on my activities.

                          Do what you enjoy, enjoy what you do.

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                          • heliskier
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 71

                            • Tuscaloosa,Al

                            • 2011 Sport Nautique

                            #14
                            RE: Re: 3 skiers

                            I also am a 45 year old die hard slalom guy. Unfortunately, I don't see serious skiing ever making a comeback due to many things: but I do believe one of the biggest obstacles is the sheer number of Personal Watercraft out there. They are everywhere. They have just made the waterways too crowded. Those things seem to gravitate to skiers also. We can have a small cove a regular boat would never enter &amp; about the time someone gets in the water, here comes a darned PWC to mess up a perfectly good stretch of water.
                            I have to be up skiing no later than 6:30AM to really get in some quality ski time during the warmer months. Unless you have access to a private lake, slalom training is nearly impossible due to all the boats out there. I would love to see skiing come back, but just don't think it will ever happen.

                            The Air Chair has definitely saved me from lots of frustration as you can ride it anytime or any water conditions.
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                            2008 Air Nautique 216
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                            • jpduster
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 106

                              • Sydney, Australia

                              • 2008 210TE

                              #15
                              RE: Re: 3 skiers

                              I love skiing and always use the ski for my warm up run before wakeboarding, the difficulty of accessing slalom courses could be one of the the drawbacks to serious slalom skiing making any sort of comeback. The only place I have ever run the course was at a cable park, unfortunately my closest park closed years ago and existing parks now seem to cater only to wakeboarding. I think skiis will tend to become just another one of the toys and move more towards freestyling/hot dogging, haven't tried wakeskis yet and would be interested to here from someone who has. :grin:

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