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  • apexrig1
    • Dec 2008
    • 144



    #1

    Wake Jumping Help!

    Hello, now I asked this question last year about jumping the wake. I understand everyone says this progressive curve or whatever. Maybe Im not doing it right. But it seems I gota give it all I got to get across the wake. I can do it sometimes but not very consistantly. And like I said, all I have. I see people effortlessly going way past the wake like its nothing. I find the easiest with the factory ballast full @ 21.5 around 75ft. Maybe its just practice practice practice just need to find more time and nicer weather. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
    2008 SANTE 210 Orange Baby! Current
    2007 Gekko GTO22 Previous
  • hourglass
    • Mar 2010
    • 248

    • lower bama

    • 2005 SANTE

    #2
    if you are casing the wake from what you said i would keep everything the same, but bring yourself in 5' to 70'. that's 65' of rope and 5' of handle.
    1. start at the wake and cut out almost all the way out
    2. flatten off, and stay flat until you begin to start drifting back towards the wake
    3. keep your upper body straight and begin to transfer your weight to your heelside edge
    4. bend your knees, but make sure you aren't just bending them over your toes. you don't want that at all. almost like your sitting in a chair is what you want.
    5. start SLOWLY and build your speed as you approach the wake.
    6. ride all the way up the wake and stand tall(spring up) at the very top of the wake
    7. dropping yourback hand will help your air balance, but try to hold on both hands.
    8. land on your heel edge riding away from the wake.

    for toe side is very similar, but a little tougher for most people. don't neglect your toeside. work at both sides equally and ride switch as much as possible. on your toes you really want to keep the handle in at your front hip all the way up the wake. you don't have to bend your knees as much as you do heelside when learning. if you come off edge you will lose balance and fall. 70' is definitely what length you should be on. once you get to doing grabs both ways fairly solid go to 75 and speed up. the longer your rope the bigger wake your going to want and faster you have to go.

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    • jward
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2008
      • 620

      • Sweet Home Alabama

      • 03 SANTE 04 SANTE

      #3
      a video of your wake jump will really help

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      • HS
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 1333

        • Sammamish, WA

        • 2010 SANTE 210 (Sold)

        #4
        wake jumping

        I saw the Alt Games for a few minutes on TV yestersay -- they were showing a college team WB tournament -- and what I saw them doing was when they hit the wake, there was almost no flex in their knees.
        2010 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition

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        • Chexi
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2025
          • 2119

          • Austin

          • 2000 SAN

          #5
          First, there are at least two and likely more "correct" ways to do wake to wake jumps. The first and oldest formal method is the progressive edge method, of which there is a ton of information out there. The second, newer, and easier method for beginners is the Ollie edge method, which is far less aggressive, more vertical, and less distance. The Ollie edge variety is basically riding almost flat using basically the nothing more than the boat's pendulum power to pull you back toward the center of the wake, standing tall, and riding up the wake. Try this with a very small carve out and just let the boat pull you back in. Start standing tall at the trough / whitewash. You will be amazed how high you pop. You won't go wake to wake if you are at normal lenghts, but you will get the feeling. Just repeat it with progressively larger cuts out. You can also fo this on a very short rope like say 15 feet. Then you will go wake to wake and get the feel.

          Note this is all heal side jumps.

          Also, the correct riding position is knees rolled forward and hips forward. It's hard to describe, but do not bend your back forward. Stand up straight, then start be ding your knees while leaning back a little. It will push your hips forward. That is the correct basic riding position. Just go from that to standing tall at the wake to get pop. This position turns your body into a spring.

          Finally, you might want to subscribe to learnwake.com. Not only do they have great instructional clips and drills, but you can video yourself and email it to Kyle and mike and they will analyze it and email you back with tailored pointers. The service is really inexpensive, and I think it now works on the iPhone, so you can watch the clips on your boat.
          Now
          2000 SAN

          Previously
          1999 Air Nautique
          1996 Tige Pre-2000
          1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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          • johnboyy7
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2009
            • 409

            • houston


            #6
            I suggest the advice from above on position and speeding up your boat. I ride at 24. If your are at 21.5 go to maybe 22.5.
            04 SANTE 210
            89 SPORT

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            • Shooter
              • Apr 2025
              • 264

              • Orange County California

              • 2003 SANTE 210

              #7
              Lots of good information has already been given. My weightyed 03 210 needs about 25mph before the wake clean up. Check out Learnwake.com. It cost $9 a month, but I have learned a lot and have corrected some bad habits that I was not aware of

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              • 210GA
                • Aug 2008
                • 282

                • Cartersville, Georgia

                • 2008 SANTE 210

                #8
                I agree with all the comments about Learnwake.com, they have some awesome videos to help you out. It is worth the 10 bucks a month just to check out the videos. They have a video called "HS Perfect Setup" and it will explain how it's done perfectly and you'll think, WOW, that is easy once you got it dialed in.

                Also check this Learnwake.com video out complements of wakeworld.com

                http://www.wakeworld.com/news/featur...ariations.html

                In the video above pay attention to the detail around :40 seconds. It will show you the 'standing tall' position.

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                • Chexi
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Apr 2025
                  • 2119

                  • Austin

                  • 2000 SAN

                  #9
                  I tried learnwake.com last night on my iPhone, and it's looks like they are still working on getting that to work properly, but when I was at the camp they told me it was a priority, so I suspect it should be running properly on the iPhone fairly soon.
                  Now
                  2000 SAN

                  Previously
                  1999 Air Nautique
                  1996 Tige Pre-2000
                  1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                  • 74green
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 281

                    • Canyon Lake, Texas

                    • 2001 Air Nautique

                    #10
                    When teaching people how to wake jump. I usually start them at 65’ and no ballast. After they master that maybe add ballast. Once they start landing in the flats…move them out another 5’.

                    These might be helpful for you (can skip to the first 1min long intro):
                    Position: http://www.youtube.com/user/timdog23#p/u/5/Kb04CTPbcdk
                    Wake Jumps: http://www.youtube.com/user/timdog23#p/u/10/a8ACfgqU9dg
                    Current: 2001 Air Nautique GT-40

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                    • obd666
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 793

                      • Bostian Heights, NC

                      • 03 SANTE

                      #11
                      learnwake is an awesome site for sure, would highly recommend
                      2003 SANTE - "OG 210"

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                      • 93nautique0710
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 173

                        • east tn

                        • 1993 ski nautique 196

                        #12
                        also another thing that helps is look to the horizon your going toward and dont look down

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                        • 210GA
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 282

                          • Cartersville, Georgia

                          • 2008 SANTE 210

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 93nautique0710 View Post
                          also another thing that helps is look to the horizon your going toward and dont look down
                          I've heard this a lot and I'd have to disagree some what (no disrespect). I think you need to spot the wake when you start carving in and then just resist the wake / stand tall. At the wake you can look at the tower of the boat or the shoreline.

                          Shaun Murray - How to do more with less


                          http://wakeboardingmag.com/how-to/20...ore-with-less/

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                          • apexrig1
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 144



                            #14
                            Thanks for all the tips! I'll try to get on the water this weekend and try it out.
                            2008 SANTE 210 Orange Baby! Current
                            2007 Gekko GTO22 Previous

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                            • apexrig1
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 144



                              #15
                              Alright I managed to get a small clip on here. Look forward to all the insight. Hopefully not to many critics
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