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  • skinautique
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 1749

    • Colorado


    A post from Adriano

    Hey Adriano,
    I saw your post over on the Nichols water ski board. Will Asher is skiing his own style. Although he looks to be in a similar position to Marcus Brown, he isn't doing the same thing. The important steps come after that shot. Marcus does a true one handed gate as in there is no glide in his gate. He "drops in" as you are seeing and then stands up, counter rotates and then drops his right hip in before the gate. Will kind of drops in, stands up and glides and then turns. He doesn't ski in as efficient of a manner as Marcus. I don't want to knock Jeff Rodgers and his skiing because obviously he gets it done and does hold the world record but he is definately skiing in an old school style. He uses a lot of his upper body and very little of his lower body to create leverage behind the boat. If you have ever snow skied, the motions that Marcus is doing mimmick what you do in snow skiing. You drop your hip over the edge of the ski to make it turn (there is more to it though). The other thing to keep in mind is that not everyone is going to look like Marcus or some of the other guys doing the same technique but it is the "core" concept of it that matters. Marcus has been doing the one handed gate the longest out of any of the skiers. He drops in way harder than anyone else out there and has counter rotating abilities that are second to none.

    Hope this helps a little bit.
  • Adrian
    • Jul 2003
    • 175

    • Spain Europe


    #2
    Thanks skinautique.
    Yes I noticed in your nice video Marcus one handed gate but I was interested in the pull position. Maybe I'm wrong but my idea is leverage against the boat is not the objective to seek. It’s to have the ski on edge and Jeff can do it “being an extension of the rope” as the old days and Marcus or Will can do it bending the body at their waist. I guess you need to be a young athlete as them to do it…
    Am I wrong?

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    • skinautique
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 1749

      • Colorado


      #3
      No you don't need to be a young athlete but you need to have some patience to learn the technique. It is all about skiing efficiently. Rodgers uses a lot of brute force to get from buoy to buoy. Marcus uses more technique to get the job done. You aren't just bending at the waist. You are shifting your center of mass (hips) off the edge of the ski. When you do the "drop in" for the one handed gate, you use no energy. You literally fall off the edge of the ski.

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      • Christopher-W.-Becker
        • Dec 2003
        • 168

        • Ann Arbor, MI


        #4
        Guys,

        What is the address for the Nichols water ski board?

        Thanks
        Christopher W. Becker
        9323 Mockingbird Ln
        Saline, MI 48176

        cwbecker@umich.edu

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        • skinautique
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 1749

          • Colorado


          #5
          http://waterski.nicholls.edu/waterski/index.html

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          • Adrian
            • Jul 2003
            • 175

            • Spain Europe


            #6
            Thanks again, skinautique.

            "You are shifting your center of mass (hips) off the edge of the ski."

            I can't understand this and I'm really interested could you elaborate?

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            • skinautique
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 1749

              • Colorado


              #7
              You have to think of upper and lower body seperation with your hips being the middle point. Just standing on land, you can take your hips and move them to the side without dippping your shoulders and head and also without compressing your knees. It sounds ackward but it works and is extremely effective. You are not moving your whole body in one straight line like you would with the "old school" style. I am not sure of how else to put it.

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              • Adrian
                • Jul 2003
                • 175

                • Spain Europe


                #8
                I understood it quite well now. Thanks.
                The idea is to drop the hips keeping head and shoulders up, isn't it?
                But I guess it's not a bad thing to compress the kness. In fact these new school skiers ski with the knees much more flexed than old schoolers.
                What I look for is easy ideas to think when I'm ¡n the course. I want to try this new school techniques and I guess a good aproach is to think "bend waist, drop hips, keep head and shoulders up"
                Right?

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                • skinautique
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1749

                  • Colorado


                  #9
                  Keeping the head and shoulders level. You can flex the knees but make sure you flex your ankles too. You don't want to sit in the back seat. You need to be as centered over your ski as possible.

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