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  • gride
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    • Jun 2007
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    • 05' 210 team

    serious home electrical question

    I am renting a house right now. It is an old house. Anyway, the gas stove, thermostat, two wall outlets, and the overhead kitchen light are all on a 15 breaker. To me this seems stupid, lazy, and dangerous. Any thoughts?
  • scott resick
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2012
    • 532

    • Pittsburgh

    • 2006 196 Limited

    #2
    If the stove were electric it should be on its own circuit. Not sure about gas. There has got to be an electritian on here to answere this.

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    • wskiboy
      • May 2010
      • 50

      • canada

      • 1996 196 closed bow

      #3
      Originally posted by scott resick View Post
      If the stove were electric it should be on its own circuit. Not sure about gas. There has got to be an electritian on here to answere this.
      Sounds unsafe to me

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      • DanielC
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        • Nov 2005
        • 2669

        • West Linn OR

        • 1997 Ski Nautique

        #4
        The correct answer is to find out what is code in Wisconsin, and the city you are in.

        Renting a house limits you to what you can do, after all, it is not your house. Have a talk with your land lord. They may allow or even encourage you to make improvements, or pay to have them done, in lieu, of rent, or not.

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        • scottb7
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          • Aug 2011
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          • Carson City, Nevada

          • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

          #5
          has the breaker every flipped? i think it is fine. but i am not an electrician.
          Last edited by scottb7; 02-01-2013, 11:24 PM.

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          • gride
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            • Jun 2007
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            #6
            Yes, I noticed it even "buzzes" if I have the oven and heater on simultaneously. Then it flips a few minutes after that. I'm in alabama btw.

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            • sodbuster88
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Nov 2008
              • 368

              • Clayton, NC


              #7
              Originally posted by gride View Post
              Yes, I noticed it even "buzzes" if I have the oven and heater on simultaneously. Then it flips a few minutes after that. I'm in alabama btw.
              Are your range and oven both gas? If not, that oven/ range needs to be on a separate CB and you are probably overloading the circuit. If so, you might have a faulty oven/range or you have a faulty CB...you can check circuit amperage draw with a clamp meter. The electrical on that should be minimal voltamp requirement (burner starter, clock, timer, oven light...etc) ..and designed for a 110 v outlet....figure 180va requirement.

              With only two receptacles, a thermostat and a light fixture, should have no problem if you ignore the oven/range. Unless you have a specific load(s) then assume these kitchen receptacles will be convenience receptacles with a 180va load on each (NEC 220.14(I)). If you also assume that they will be in use less than three hours (non-continuous load)you can use 100% of the breaker rating (NEC210.20(A))then 20X120=2400; 2400/180=13.33. For a 15 amp breaker you can have 10 receptacles on a CB. This would be the max number of receptacles you can out on a 15A or 20A CB. I always assume 80% breaker rating... 6-8 duplex receptacles on a 15a CB.
              Peace..

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              • HS
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                • Oct 2007
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                • Sammamish, WA

                • 2010 SANTE 210 (Sold)

                #8
                what amp rating the plug on the oven? Those are often 30 amp. Is it plugged into a socket with an adapter?
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                • gride
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                  • Jun 2007
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                  #9
                  i can't find any info on the stove/range itself, but it does not have any kind of adapter. it plugs into a regular socket. it only blows if i have the oven on above 375 and have maybe my phone charging and something else(on a surge protector)

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                  • NCH2oSki
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1159

                    • Maryville, TN

                    • 2005 ski nautique 206 SE

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gride View Post
                    i can't find any info on the stove/range itself, but it does not have any kind of adapter. it plugs into a regular socket. it only blows if i have the oven on above 375 and have maybe my phone charging and something else(on a surge protector)
                    Is the oven gas or dual fuel.....gas eyes and electric oven?
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                    • gride
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                      #11
                      it's all gas.

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                      • NCH2oSki
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1159

                        • Maryville, TN

                        • 2005 ski nautique 206 SE

                        #12
                        You may have some issues with the stove. Plug it into a separate circuit than what it is on now using a heavy duty extension cord, and replicate the conditions that cause the circuit to trip, and see what happens. This should at least isolate the stove or the house wiring issue.
                        2005 Ski Nautique 206 SE, Acme 422, PP SG 8.0, ND Tower
                        2011 strada with strada bindings

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                        1986 Sunbird skier with 150 Evinrude VRO
                        1992 Mastercraft prostar 190, with Powerslot
                        1999 Ski Nautique GT-40
                        1999 Sport Nautique, GT-40 FCT,



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                        • TRDon
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                          • Oct 2007
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                          • MN

                          • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

                          #13
                          It isnt a problem or unsafe. That is a minimal load on all accounts. I have a class A JW electrician liscence in the state of MN

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                          • Diwon
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 4

                            • Australia


                            #14
                            The best thing, don't sell it out, neither live in it :P
                            But that won't do any good, so if you are planning to sell it out, rather be sure that you fix that stuff or tell everything clearly to the person you are selling it to. Now i am off with my surf board, take care and good luck
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