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  • BigBald
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2004
    • 529

    • Indianapolis (Carmel), IN


    Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

    I am curious about what boat speeds folks use for wakeboarding. I know that speed is determined by several factors, level of experience, boat type, and boat weighting arrangement.

    I see some folks that run 23 or 24 mph.....and that seems really fast to me. I have observed other boats on the lake that run at around 25 or 27 mph....that seems really really fast to me. I would hate to take a face plant at that speed.

    If you could add your boat type, boat weight, level of experience to your comments....that would help.

    FOR ME:
    Boat - 1999 Sport Nautique (no ballast only human weight)

    Experience - I would say a 3.5 (scale of 1 - 10.....1 being brand new...and 10 being trying every trick known and ready to turn pro)

    Speed - 19 mph (and I slow down to about 15 when I start working on surface 180s and 360s)
    88 Ski Nautique
    99 Sport Nautique
    Currently - 07 Nautique 216 Team
  • OKWAKEBDR
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2005
    • 750

    • Lakefront

    • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

    #2
    RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

    '05 210 TE

    Stock Ballast 830 lbs + 200 lb fat sack behind driver's seat to level out boat with human weight; Sometimes I will bump the total ballast and fat sacks to about 1500 lbs.

    Experience - 360s, 540s, 3 or 4 different inverts

    22.5 mph @ 70 feet (normally); sometimes 23 @ 75 ft

    I've had people in my boat doing inverts with the same ballast set up as described above, but only 60 feet of rope and 18.5 mph.

    It is just a preference.

    But, your rope length normally determined the speed, and vice versa

    Those people riding 24-27 mph are probably using 80 or 85 ft lines
    Current: 2017 G23
    Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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    • Alan-S
      • Nov 2004
      • 161

      • Richmond, VA


      #3
      RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

      '03 SANTE

      Stock Ballast + 200-300 bow plus 4-5 people

      I usually ride 22.3-22.7 on 70'. lots of 180's Tant., Backroll, Scarecrow.

      A few of my friends are a lot better than me, 10+ inverts and spins, and they usually ride 75- 80 23-24.

      my wake washes under 19.5 no matter how little ballast I have.

      More speed equals = more line tension
      More line tension = better control and more lift.

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      • Alan-S
        • Nov 2004
        • 161

        • Richmond, VA


        #4
        RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

        If I had my choice I would ride 85' at 24 mph, but my toeside tricks are not good enough and I would case the wake too much.

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        • FLCERIK
          • Jun 2005
          • 68

          • Reno, Nevada


          #5
          RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

          01 Super Air

          We run 21.5 mph with stock ballast and an extra 400 lbs in fat sacks. In addition we typically have 6 to 8 people in the boat. With this setup we will use a 75 ft rope. We have found that this set up works best. My buddy who is a pro rider often rides with us and says it does not get much better.

          When we do not have the extra 400lbs in fat sacks we will use a 65 ft rope instead of 75'.

          Your line tension should be controled by your approach to the wake not the speed of the boat.

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          • sperbet
            • Aug 2004
            • 283

            • Truckee, CA


            #6
            RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

            boat- 1995 SS with about 2600lbs of total ballast. water and lead

            experience- I'd say about a six or seven, back rolls, bs 3s, big grabs, 180s. I have two buddies I would put around 9, they each have a ton of inverts and spins.

            Speed- We all ride around 23-24 mph. I ride at about 75 feet and they ride about 5 feet further back. I have the same problem as Alan S on the toes. I could ride 85' on my heels, but would always be casing the wake on my toeside if I did so. **** toeside,lol. Line length definitely goes hand and hand with speed. The more line you let out the faster you have to go.
            Ummm, I\'ll take the REAL 210 please. Thanks.

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            • Alan-S
              • Nov 2004
              • 161

              • Richmond, VA


              #7
              RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

              FLCERIK, yes line tension is controled by your approach to the wake, however there is definitly more of a pull the faster you go. Think about it. Randall Harris rides at 26-28 mph on a 85'+ line, he does it for the pull, not for the distance from wake to wake. The distance W2W at 85'@28mph is probably about the same as 70' @ 21mph. The wake is larger at 21 but at 28 he is getting that solid pull that helps him out with all of that crazy shifty float stuff he does. Try a Raley at 20 and then try one at 24, huge difference.

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              • Molly_2000SAN
                • Mar 2005
                • 20

                • Minneapolis, MN


                #8
                RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

                2000 SAN

                Fill both tanks and sometimes a phat sac
                Ride one out from the shortest length
                22 mph
                Only do W2W jumps and 180's

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                • Socbum
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 268

                  • Columbus, Ohio

                  • 2002 210 Super Air Nautique Previous 1987 America

                  #9
                  RE: Opinions on Boat speed for Wakeboarding

                  02 SAN
                  Stock ballast (left & right no center)
                  Experience -- 3
                  Speed 21.5

                  I started at 18 and moved up by 1 untill I felt comfortable and did not trougth(sp?) through the water.
                  Surface 180's, Ollie's, lip slide and W2W jump

                  Does your individual weight play a factor?
                  SocBum
                  -------
                  2002 SAN <== Current Boat
                  1987 American Skier Advance <==First Boat

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                  • surroundsound64
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 2147

                    • Longview, TX

                    • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                    #10
                    21 in the 1981 ski.
                    2018 SAN 230
                    1981 Ski Nautique
                    Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                    Sold - 2000 SAN

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                    • DRAGON88
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 529

                      • Eugene, Oregon

                      • 1999 Sport Naqutique 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

                      #11
                      22.7-23.3 mph behind an 05 SAN stock balast.
                      85' line I'd rate myself a 5 or so, I can spin ts5's, grabbed 3's exc.

                      Weight wouldn't really play a factor so long as you're riding a board that is the correct legnth...
                      How about \"Chales\"?

                      RIP Nikolai (\'05 SANTE) 5/23/05 - 4/30/06

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                      • bkhallpass
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1407

                        • Discovery Bay, CA

                        • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DRAGON88
                        Weight wouldn't really play a factor so long as you're riding a board that is the correct legnth...
                        Dragon, I'd agree that the riders weight is not much of a factor
                        if the board is sized correctly, with the exception of Big guys.
                        When you start getting 240 or bigger, there just aren't many boards that
                        get bigger, and if they did, they would be impractical. Big Guys can
                        really ride low in the water, even with 142 or 144 boards, unless they
                        pick up the speed to plane better.

                        BKH
                        2001 Super Air

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                        • DRAGON88
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 529

                          • Eugene, Oregon

                          • 1999 Sport Naqutique 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

                          #13
                          Rail shape also makes a huge difference in where a board rides in the water, more then the surface area within reason.
                          How about \"Chales\"?

                          RIP Nikolai (\'05 SANTE) 5/23/05 - 4/30/06

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                          • AirNautique211
                            • Jan 2025
                            • 316

                            • Central Indiana


                            #14
                            How about for little riders - groms form 50-100 lbs.? My boys like it from 14-18 mph. They jump with grabs and do some 180's, mostly surface. My little guy is only 58 lbs. on a Byrly 134.

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                            • ihaveansv211
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 163

                              • New England


                              #15
                              04 sv211

                              i ride at 19.3, 65 ft line, 750 lbs ballast, and hydrogate pulled


                              hey airnautique211 what are u riding at normally?
                              www.shredcandlewood.com

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