wake size has a ton to do with water depth

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  • MNSuperAir
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Sep 2005
    • 591

    • St Paul

    • 2016 SAN 210

    #16
    Proved it today, you guys are correct. Went fishing today with a friend who has a River Pro jet boat and while running some shallow water (6" deep) you could feel the boat lift up when you transitioned froma few feet deep to a few inches deep. I belive it is similar to ground effects but in water.
    2016 SAN 210
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    • jaimwolfe
      • Apr 2007
      • 14

      • Mishawaka, IN


      #17
      6" in a jet boat? Are you sure you didn't feel the boat transition up because you were hitting the bottom? Surely you ruined an impeller if you ran that shallow.
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      • Rick
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 1250

        • San Diego, Ca

        • 1962 Keaton Utility. 2000 Ski 1965 Barracuda

        #18
        The explaination in Fluid dynamics goes something like this.'How much math have you had? Gee, Yellow_Flash_Colorz: I'm not sure you've had enough math that you would understand the answer."
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        • Sinkoumn
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jun 2006
          • 578

          • MPLS - St. Paul, MN

          • Super Sport Nautique

          #19
          this is seriously a topic??
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          • jaimwolfe
            • Apr 2007
            • 14

            • Mishawaka, IN


            #20
            Naw, it's not serioiusly a topic, we are all just BS'ing. It is interesting though.
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            • surroundsound64
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2005
              • 2147

              • Longview, TX

              • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

              #21
              Personally... if the water is shallow enough to mess with the wake... I don't want to be riding in it.
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              • Kraven
                • Apr 2007
                • 56

                • Midwest


                #22
                Andrew,
                Now I have to start at the top and read thry it again. I can't read anything
                serious and focus with your avatar looking like that
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                • WakeSlayer
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2069

                  • Silver Creek, MN

                  • 1968 Mustang

                  #23
                  We began noticing this more when we started surfing a few years ago. If the water is less than 5-6 feet, my wake practically disappears. Boat speed plays a pretty big role also, I think.
                  the WakeSlayer
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                  • Andrew
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 891

                    • Tuscaloosa, AL


                    #24
                    Originally posted by Kraven
                    Andrew,
                    Now I have to start at the top and read thry it again. I can't read anything
                    serious and focus with your avatar looking like that

                    read? there are words on here?

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                    • tiqueman97
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 81

                      • Parrish FL


                      #25
                      Definitely makes a difference. I ride in a river that varies from 4 foot to 20 foot. BIG DIFFERENCE. Also the ride attitude of the boat changes, the bow will drop in shallow water.
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                      • j2nh
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 628

                        • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                        #26
                        Big difference. I also ski in a river that at one point comes up to around 4 feet in depth from 15. Pulling a trick skier with PP engaged you can actually fell the attitude of the boat change.
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                        • DavidF
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 611

                          • Austin, TX


                          #27
                          Basically, a wave in water is symetrical. So, the wave is the same size below the waters surface as it is on top of the waters surface. If the water is shallow, the wave gets "cut off" by the bottom of the lake. Thus the wave is then "cut off" on the surface of the water or simply reduced in height. The cutting off of the (bottom) wave also causes it to slow down which makes the surface wave run over the top of itself (i.e the breakers in the ocean).

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                          • Andrew
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 891

                            • Tuscaloosa, AL


                            #28
                            thats the most "dumbed down" explanation i've heard yet. makes perfect sense and is easy to understand

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                            • G-man
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 428

                              • Allen, Texas


                              #29
                              We have one local ski site that has shallower in the boat path and deeper at the bouys. Smaller wakes for the boat and better for the skierin the turns. If you have ever run aground on a sand bar right before you get stuck the boat rises due to compression of the water then you sink back down on the sandbar. NO, I wasn't driving.
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                              • LakesideRec
                                • Jul 2019
                                • 103

                                • Prior Lake, MN

                                • '15 Super Air Nautique 210 ''18 Bennington 25 spdxp '16 SeaDoo gtr 215 (2) '16 Yamaha SuperJet

                                #30
                                Its also an issue that has raised some concern that big wakes in shallow water disturbs the bottom, stirring up sediment which can release phosphorous back into the water causing water quality problems. Shore and bottom erosion are one of the reasons MN has a state-wide no-wake speed limit out to 150' from shore. Distance from shore being somewhat of a crude proxy for water depth.

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