2008 210 Wet Sounds Recommendations

[SuperSquirt]

Whats up everyone! I am new to this site and have to say this is my first post. I previously owned a Ski Nautique for 10 years and just placed an order today for an 08 210. My color options are almost identical to this 230 posted here (absolutely sick boat), except I ordered a white stripe and titan tower. What wet sounds speakers do you recommend for the titan tower? How much room do I have for another sub box/amp? Any feedback would be great.

I'm sure you'lll be seeing some pics in about a month or so!

[AuMDLST]

go with the 3-some package or two 485's - get rid of the factory sub and put a 12" under the seat - you will need a dedicated amp for the sub

[EarmarkMarine]

I recommend symmetrical tower speakers like a pair of PRO485s or two pair of PRO60s or two pair of PRO80s on a big two-channel amplifier. The 3-some looks radical but has some application issues. I’m not sure what drives its momentum but I’m not a fan of the 3-some set-up and here’s why:

A 3-some requires a four-channel amplifier. Two of the channels operate at four-ohms while the other two operate bridged at four-ohms, which is the equivalent of two-ohms. The inequity makes tuning the 3-some difficult. The use of power in a 3-some is inefficient. You’re going to get more power and output per dollar with four equal tower speakers that are driven by a dedicated two-channel amplifier at two-ohms.

I see people using a regulated amplifier (like the JL Audio 300/4) on the 3-some. This amplifier biases the supply voltage of the entire amplifier based on the two channels with the lowest impedance which results in a decrease in power on the two-channels with the higher impedance.

When using the 3-some, unless your amplifier has an option that sums the inputs to mono (a rare feature), you’ll get distortion on the center speaker similar to, but much worse than, an old class B amplifier notch distortion. This distortion doesn’t survive the heavy mass of a subwoofer but is audible as a harshness in full range applications.

Hope this helps.

David
Earmark Marine
www.earmarkmarine.com

[SuperSquirt]

Earmark Marine, are you an official Wetsounds retailer? If so, PM me a price on a pair of 485's? Thanks

[gride300]

well a 3 some gives you 4 8" drivers and 3 horns. two pro 485's only gives you 4 8" drivers and two horns. i personally like the 3some as that's what i have. you should run a kicker sx900.4 on that set up, or wait about 2-3 months and get wet sounds amps. their line is going to cover everything from dedicated sub to the 3some. i love their products and their staff. i didnt have one for a while and just got it, the ws 420 is a MUST. not only for adjustments, but for preouts and other helpful stuff.

[Laketexoma]

I have a 230 with the titan tower and a pair of 485's. That being said if you have the titan tower you best/ almost only option is the 3 some. The tower has SO much bend you'll have to change the mounting of the 485 to fit. The 485 are disigned to mount on a straight bar ONLY! I had to custom mount mine and it was a PITA to do. If I had it to do over I would definatly go with the 3 some.

I do agree that the ws-420 is a must it had a ton of cool options.

Here is a link to my setup http://www.planetnautique.com/index....ic&t=10721

Later
LT

[SuperSquirt]

Are you saying that the 485's are too big for the tower? Do the WS brackets swivel at all to accommodate? Laketexoma, will you post pics of the mounts you made for your 230? Any install tips on how to make this work? Thanks a bunch.

[gride300]

you should just give them a call. they have the best customer service of any company i have ever dealt with hands down. ask for john guyver. the 3some is the best bang for your buck combination. i think it is highly advisable to wait for wetsounds amps in 2-3months man. mine sound great with the kicker900.4, but their amps were designed for their products for the most part.

[gride300]

definitely take it to a reputable car audio place. even if your dealer says they can handle it. from experience i would not let them do it. make sure the amps are fused properly and use the right guage wire. the extra 349 kinda sucks, but the 420 is soo dope!

[SuperSquirt]

Thanks for the advice, I'm actually installing two Alpine PDX amps tomorrow morning. One for my 15" sub and the 4.150 to push either the two WS 485's or maybe four Pro 80's. I really can't decide due to headroom issues with the Titan tower! How terribly ugly would it be to install these 485's upside down to save a little headroom? Anyone tried it?

[gride300]

i was going to do the pdx4150 for my 3some but went with the kicker b/c it was already in. they make a marine 600.1 pdx amp. even being in fresh water i've noticed non marine amps tend to rust and arc after about a year give or take. you should be able to get them up high under the glove box though b/c they are so small. those amps are awesome b/c they run stable at 4ohms even bridged. i was going to mount mine on top of my 05 210 but south east correct craft just cut the bimini down some. i used to hit my head on my x-2 on the 485 but i but there arent really any issues the way the seat is further back on the 210. you could do a pair of pro80's and a pair of 60's on the inside to give a ton of headroom. also, you can go over the rms ratings for their speakers. one guy over there told me he ran 440watts to a 485. they under rate them b/c the rms is already so high most wouldnt want to spend the money to totally amp them out hardcore. whatever setup you choose the pdx4150 will get it done for you for sure.

[SuperSquirt]

I just finished installing two new Alpine PDX amps to the factory setup, and let me tell everyone that it was well worth it. From the factory, Correct Craft penny-pinched the stereo by hooking up all the speakers, tower and sub to one weak little Clarion amp. In the process, they switched up ohm loads, used the wrong pre-out, and had some of the boat speakers running off the deck and some off of the amp? Although I am a car stereo fanatic, I personally thought it sounded like crap from the factory. When I added these new amps, I replaced the sub with a 15" Solobaric and isolated the tower speaker wires to a new amp. I am reusing the clarion amp to push all 6 Momo factory speakers and it sounds a million times better. Everyone should look into redoing the factory setup!

[gride300]

i fully agree. if they want to save on their profit they should just add another 300-500$ to the price. you wont notice that when buying a new boat and then when you buy a use one it will already be well equipped. in my opinion subs should always have their own d-class amp, speakers should be run at nominal imp. usually 4ohm, and rms amp power should meet or slightly exceed speaker rms.

[Brandfish]

damador- the clarion amp is a four channel so how did you decide to divide the 4 channel 6 speaker set up> just wondering cause i am planning on having it done soon? thanks

[gride300]

i would say wire the bow speakers for the front and the other 4 on rear. i went with another clarion 280 for the bow speakers and used the 4 ch to run the other in boats. also, the clarion receiver has no sub preout, but it does allow you to choose to run rear or sub on the headunit.