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  • azeus17
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2008
    • 387

    • Grand Rapids, MI

    • 2022 GS22 - Coming in July Previous Boats: 1989 Sport Nautique 2002 SANTE

    Relocating Sub to Drivers Kick Panel

    I picked up a 2002 SANTE over the winter. I am definitely going to need the storage that the sub is currently taking up under the observers seat. Does anyone have a good write up (with pictures would be a plus) on the best way to go about moving the sub? I did a search, but did not come up with anything. The rear compartments are full with the factory tanks and sacks on top of them. May look into changing that in the future, but want to start with the sub.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • gride
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1441

    • War Eagle

    • 05' 210 team

    #2
    I'm in the same boat, pun intended. I need life jacket storage under the observers seat. I plan on just putting an earmark wTerproof bass reflex box under the dash. I basically want an elongated box that will take up as little foot space as possible bc 2 of my drivers are 6'6 I have to speak with David first because I was somewhat confused about firing position even after his answer.

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    • azeus17
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2008
      • 387

      • Grand Rapids, MI

      • 2022 GS22 - Coming in July Previous Boats: 1989 Sport Nautique 2002 SANTE

      #3
      I saw that post too. I was a little dumbfounded by it, but I am sure the real audio guys know what he was saying.

      I know this has been done...in fact I know NautiqueJeff has done it before. Was there ever a write up on it?

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      • NautiqueJeff
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        • Mar 2002
        • 16385
        • Lake Norman

        • Mooresville, NC

        • 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1998 Ski Nautique 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique

        #4
        Yeah, I did it on my '03. Check link in sig for pics. Sorry, no write-up on that one.



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        • Quinner
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 2245

          • Unknown

          • Correct Crafts

          #5
          Adam,

          IIRC Ken "Gotwake" posted a write up about doing this on a 210?? If you find something and the pics are missing drop me an email, could put you in touch with Ken and I am sure he would be able to help you out.

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          • TRDon
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2007
            • 722

            • MN

            • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

            #6
            How would it sound under the front in a free air configuration like that? I thought about it too, but I just took mine out. I don't listen to music too much in the boat anyway. I still wouldn't mind doing it at some point if it would sound decent.

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            • EarmarkMarine
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Mar 2008
              • 699

              • Dallas, TX


              #7
              Its one thing to talk in acoustic generalizations about the woofer orientation and such. But when you want to get more concise you have to first identify the exact available dimensions. The boat usually dictates the enclosure displacement and the boat owner determines their tolerance for loss of legroom and that decides the type of enclosure, woofer size and orientation.

              David
              Earmark Marine
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              • bhectus
                • Sep 2010
                • 283

                • Gainesville, FL

                • '02 Ski Nautique '87 Barefoot Nautique - sold '97 Super Sport - sold '96 SN196-sold '83 2001 sold

                #8
                Originally posted by EarmarkMarine View Post
                Its one thing to talk in acoustic generalizations about the woofer orientation and such. But when you want to get more concise you have to first identify the exact available dimensions. The boat usually dictates the enclosure displacement and the boat owner determines their tolerance for loss of legroom and that decides the type of enclosure, woofer size and orientation.

                David
                Earmark Marine
                David, have you ever used/installed a Stereo Integrity BM mKIII subwoofer? I have one under the back seat in my Tundra, it sounds amazing, way better than I ever imagined and with a requirement of only .5 cuft of airspace in a sealed enclosure, more possibilities for placement are opened up. Highlights:

                12" subwoofer
                3.2" mounting depth*
                10" diameter nomex spider
                14mm of verified Xmax
                2.5" diameter, 8 layer copper voice coil
                Dual 4 Ohm
                450 watts power handling
                Flat diaphragm
                Custom tooling of virtually every part
                10 ring neo magnet cluster
                0.5 ft^3 sealed enclosure requirement
                2002 Ski Nautique 5.7 GM Apex

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                • EarmarkMarine
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 699

                  • Dallas, TX


                  #9
                  That looks like a very nice woofer and we do often use slim line woofers when required by the limited depth or other special application. We have done a number of downfiring subs using slim line woofers under shallow bench seat consoles for example. However, all slim line woofers will have a little lower sensitivity and a little less excursion capability than their deeper counterpart of the same size. So in the more challenging open field environment of a boat our expectations are a little different from the enclosed cabin of a vehicle where you have tons of leverage. We try to avoid a slim line in a boat but sometimes its the best option or perhaps the only option.

                  David
                  Earmark Marine
                  Earmark Marine[URL="http://www.earmarkmarine.com"]
                  www.earmarkmarine.com[/URL]

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                  • east tx skier
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1561

                    • Tyler, TX


                    #10
                    Here's a write up about an overall on a 210 where they put the sub in a box behind a kick panel. I got the design of my driver's speaker pod from this thread.

                    http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...tml?1121039952
                    1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                    • azeus17
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 387

                      • Grand Rapids, MI

                      • 2022 GS22 - Coming in July Previous Boats: 1989 Sport Nautique 2002 SANTE

                      #11
                      Originally posted by east tx skier View Post
                      Here's a write up about an overall on a 210 where they put the sub in a box behind a kick panel. I got the design of my driver's speaker pod from this thread.

                      http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...tml?1121039952
                      WOW! That is a LOT more work than I want to tackle at this point. Do not really want to cut out chunks of fiberglass. Looks like for this season the sub may just have to come out. I don't listen to much rap or anything anyway (my wife a little more) so I don't think we would really miss it that much.

                      Jeff-
                      Was your install that involved? From your pictures, it does not look like you relocated anything.

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                      • east tx skier
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1561

                        • Tyler, TX


                        #12
                        I don't think that's too big a deal. Just take a reciprocating saw to the hump, spray in some foam, and sand smooth.

                        The only reason I had that thread bookmarked is because I copied their speaker pod (carpeted) for my 98 SN.
                        1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                        • n2sandcars
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 51

                          • Poway

                          • 2001 Super Air Black and White

                          #13
                          I have a box for 2 10" sub the fits in the storage are behind the drivers seat. It is made of 3/4" MDF and is fiber glassed. It is covered with black vinyl to match the interior of the boat. I put one of the 10s under the observers seat. I wanted the stock look back. I'd consider selling this box for $100 obo.

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                          • 03black210team
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 16

                            • Stokesdale

                            • 1981 ski nautique sold 1987 ski nautique 2001 sold 1991 ski nautique sold 1998 sport nautique sold 2003 super air nautique 210 team

                            #14
                            Thats a good writeup and very clean install.

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