New west sounds 420sq

[Clibka]

Does anyone have experience running a ws420 in a 210 team edition with standard in boats and one pair of horn drivers/one pair of spinner tower speakers? Is the install able to be done by myself or does it require professional experience? I don't believe I have a dealer around me, and I would love to be able to independently control the volume/talk with the riders over the mic.

[Nordicron]

It's for sure not overly complicated but does require finding power wires and rubbing RCA cables from one side of boat to the other. Also depending on how u want to mount it that can require quite a bit of work as well. Many of us mount ours in that little recessed area where the on/off switch and 12 v plug is. This will be more time consuming and will require alittle drilling and cutting. You'll need to pop off the combing panel. But the good part is you will learn a lot about your boat. Also this stuff usually takes atleast twice as long as you would think it should!

[Neverenough]

One going in our 220 now. It's over at Scream Marine. I'll have it back this week. Install would not be hard. Just will have several RCAs runs to make. I did not have very good luck with my last install so they are doing it.

[OKWAKEBDR]

Jeff installed the one that is on the 2012 PN 210. I'm sure he could give you some pointers.

[nyryan2001]

I have ran both the 420 and the Exile ZLD.

The SQ addition to the 420 is much needed. I ran the 420 for a while and then went over to the Exile ZLD because I hated the sub level being tied to the inboats, also. Night and day difference in SQ, had no idea what I was missing in my inboats and towers...just sounded much better, clearer and fuller.... the ZLD SQ was that much better. Also, the ZLD with the true indepenent tower, boat and sub control, all independent and nothing tied to the other was great. Made it much easier to control the system the way I used it. Bigger ZLD knobs were great. If you look at the 420sq its pretty much a ZLD with a microphone. With the 420Sq being $300ish firm and the ZLD being had as low as $150, you are paying $150 for the microphone if the SQ of the 420 matches the ZLD.

Now.... had the included bluetooth with it for that price it'd be a deal.

[Sac Surfer]

Here is an image of my 2010 210 with ws 420.

The RCA lines run from the Port side wall where the AMPS are mounting under the floor into the 420 mounted below the dash. You want twisted RCA pairs and prolly 3-4 hours.

[EarmarkMarine]

Ryan,
Terrible idea to introduce an Exile EQ into a Wetsounds EQ discussion, especially based on such misinformation. To set the record straight with comparisons and statements that I can validate.
The Wetsounds SQ EQ has six discrete outputs. The Exile has four with the tower and in-boats divided by a passive resistive fader pot.
The Wetsounds has chassis mount RCA jacks. The Exile has non-strain-relieved RCA jacks that are just soldered to the circuit board.
The Wetsounds has sealed front panel pots. The Exile does not.
The Wetsounds is an original design. The Exile shares the same chassis and identical circuit topology as a $39 Absolute EQ400 and countless other EQs sharing the same platform since at least before the time when amplifiers did not have built-in active crossovers (which explains why the Exile has a redundant lowpass filter occupying the front panel).
The Wetsounds has a dual zone 4-band EQ (two EQs in one chassis) so that you can modify one zone without influencing the other). The Exile only has one EQ to control both the in-boat coaxials and tower HLCDs that sound different and are used very differently.
Exile boasts they are using Burr Brown (Texas Instruments) OP amps and they are but are only used in two of seven processing chips. One of the stereo chips runs through a passive fader pot before being split between two zones (as mentioned above). Burr Brown made their rep in DAC and there is nothing digital in either EQ.
The Wetsounds SQ and Exile EQ have the same number of front panel knob positions in the same lateral footprint. Either you have larger knobs with less space in between or smaller knobs with more space in between. Neither is difficult to use.
The Wetsounds also has a PA system (which requires much more than a mic), boat link and has vastly superior construction. The Wetsounds WS420SQ revision is a substantial redesign in accordance with what Wetsounds customers have ask for.

David

[Clibka]

David, your expertise never ceases to impress. I will definitely be getting the ws420sq, I wish I had an installer close to me to just handle it. Does anyone know if there is one close to central IL? If not I see WS is offering a cable kit that might make the install go a little smoother.

[nyryan2001]

David-

got it, points taken, good to see they put a lot of work into it. most of my critiques on the 420 were aimed at the old version. The SQ differences I noted were between the ZLD and the old 420, side by side exact same system there is a difference, from what you described the new 420sq shoud even be better.

[Cam003]

befroe i run out and buy one of these, the sub volume is completely independed now correct?

[MLA]

befroe i run out and buy one of these, the sub volume is completely independed now correct?

Yes, the WS-420SQ has a master volume and true 3-zone independent volume control. The ZLD has the a traditional fade setup like a typical car EQ would fade front or rear, so they are basically tied to each other and not independent volume control. Although fade works fine for some users, its not the same as true independent