Trailering G23

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  • lyzer
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    Originally posted by cedarcreek216 View Post

    You are not saying much here that’s not real obvious about the ability difference between towing with a 1/2 ton vs a 3/4 ton. I towed up to close to 80 mph with the half ton and not once felt like the boat was driving the truck. Slow acceleration, sure, it’s a lot of weight. Bad braking, never experienced this once. I guess if you drive with an 8000 pound load like you don’t have a load at all, then you can say all this about braking and acceleration, but drive like you have a load behind you and I did not experience any problems. Would it have been nicer with a 3/4 ton, no doubt at all. Did the 1/2 ton do it safely and adequately, absolutely.


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    Of course those are the obvious trailering differences between the trucks one would assume anyway -- I'm just providing my first-hand experience towing my G23. If I trailered on a regular basis, I would use a 3/4ton. I'm surprised you didn't feel like the brakes were underpowered for the task. And I do trailer safely, slower, wider turns, and more spacing as one would with a heavy load. I personally feel that a 1/2ton is capable (though at its limit), while a 3/4ton is in command, and I prefer the latter.

    To cpan13's point I wouldn't be surprised if an insurance company used that fact to get out of being at fault...I know I've seen a few hitch ratings on 1/2ton require a weight distributing hitch to reach their max rated capacity.

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  • Cpan13
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    Originally posted by cedarcreek216 View Post
    Help me understand this, please.


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    Sure, a lot of newer 1/2 tons are rated to pull 10k lbs or more. But most of them are only rated to pull that much when using a weight distribution hitch. Without the WHD the rating is generally 5000lbs. So if you get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, and you’re found to be pulling beyond your trucks weight limit there’s a solid chance your insurance company will deny your claim or you can be sued.

    Also I’m talking about towing a G23. I have no idea what your 210 weighs.

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  • cedarcreek216
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    Originally posted by Cpan13 View Post
    Anyone who is towing with a 1/2 ton and not using a weight distributor hitch is likely past your manufacturers limit. Will it do it fine? Probably. Are you at risk for a lawsuit in the event of an accident? Absolutely.
    Help me understand this, please.


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  • Cpan13
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    Anyone who is towing with a 1/2 ton and not using a weight distributor hitch is likely past your manufacturers limit. Will it do it fine? Probably. Are you at risk for a lawsuit in the event of an accident? Absolutely.

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  • cedarcreek216
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    Originally posted by lyzer View Post
    Towing with a 1/2 ton sucks. I did it from the detail shop to winter storage on flat ground. One time I towed it with a few hills in a pinch (thanks wildfires), and it was not for the faint of heart.

    I won't tow it further than a few miles without a 3/4. The tail really wags the dog on the 1/2 ton trucks. Not safe as your ability to stop and also accelerate are drastically (cannot emphasize this enough) reduced. Seeing is believing though, try towing it with a 1/2ton and then move to a diesel 3/4 and it makes the 1/2ton look like a JOKE.
    You are not saying much here that’s not real obvious about the ability difference between towing with a 1/2 ton vs a 3/4 ton. I towed up to close to 80 mph with the half ton and not once felt like the boat was driving the truck. Slow acceleration, sure, it’s a lot of weight. Bad braking, never experienced this once. I guess if you drive with an 8000 pound load like you don’t have a load at all, then you can say all this about braking and acceleration, but drive like you have a load behind you and I did not experience any problems. Would it have been nicer with a 3/4 ton, no doubt at all. Did the 1/2 ton do it safely and adequately, absolutely.


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  • Conwayfl
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    Home Depot has them for under 12$. I also got a 10k cushioned ball mount online to tow mine.

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  • options123
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    I picked up my new G23 today and from the dealer they had told me the ball size for the trailer was 2 and 5/16. This made sense to me because most 2 inch balls are rated only up to 7500/8000 #. When I picked up the boat it was a 2 inch ball and had to tow it home with the underrated ball. Are you guys towing boatmate trailers with 2 inch ball that is rated for 10000 # and if so where do I find one.

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  • lyzer
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    Towing with a 1/2 ton sucks. I did it from the detail shop to winter storage on flat ground. One time I towed it with a few hills in a pinch (thanks wildfires), and it was not for the faint of heart.

    I won't tow it further than a few miles without a 3/4. The tail really wags the dog on the 1/2 ton trucks. Not safe as your ability to stop and also accelerate are drastically (cannot emphasize this enough) reduced. Seeing is believing though, try towing it with a 1/2ton and then move to a diesel 3/4 and it makes the 1/2ton look like a JOKE.

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  • Mahnal
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    Originally posted by options123 View Post
    I'm amazed how different peoples responses have been regarding towing rigs.

    Thank you for everyone's input. Looking forward to getting my new G in 2 days!
    I don't think the responses are all that different. Everyone seems to agree:
    1) Doesn't matter what you use to pull, you are pulling a big, heavy boat, so be careful.
    2) Know your equipment.
    3) Practical application and the Manufactures suggested limits are not always the same.

    The main dis-agreement seems to be how someone suggest "need" versus preferred.

    Congrats on the new G, it will be a lot of fun, use the heck out of it!

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  • options123
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    Originally posted by Mahnal View Post
    I have a 2015 F150 eco boost, and I have no problems towing my g25. I don’t disagree if you are towing a lot at distance, a F250 would be preferable, but not required. Point is, if you need a reason to buy a new truck sure, but if you want to hold off, it isn’t required. That being said, be very careful monitoring your trailer brakes. If they are not effective, that could be a little more risky without a heavy duty truck.


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    That's great it can handle the G25. I'm amazed how different peoples responses have been regarding towing rigs. Some people have to have F-350 to be comfortable and many people just do fine with an F1250 and a G25! I'm paranoid by nature but I'm going to go at it with my new Ram 1500 and drive very carefully as I generally will only be going a few miles except a few times a year but never more than 4 hours. It does not appear that a WDH is an option or recommended for boatmate trailer so I'm not sure who or how these are being attached for people who use them. I'll let everyone know how it rides once I get going. I will be very careful regarding not having extra gear and weight in the truck.

    Thank you for everyone's input. Looking forward to getting my new G in 2 days!

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  • Mahnal
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    I have a 2015 F150 eco boost, and I have no problems towing my g25. I don’t disagree if you are towing a lot at distance, a F250 would be preferable, but not required. Point is, if you need a reason to buy a new truck sure, but if you want to hold off, it isn’t required. That being said, be very careful monitoring your trailer brakes. If they are not effective, that could be a little more risky without a heavy duty truck.


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  • cedarcreek216
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  • cedarcreek216
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    Originally posted by options123 View Post

    Tandem or triple axel?
    Tandem.


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  • options123
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    Originally posted by cedarcreek216 View Post
    I pulled a 19 G23 a total of 9 hours this past week and weekend with my 2017 Titan Pro4X. Not a problem at all, starting, stopping, turning, backing, nothing. Gas mileage sucked but that’s nothing new to me, it stinks towing or not.


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    Tandem or triple axel?

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  • Infinity
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    Originally posted by options123 View Post

    Do you have a weight distributing hitch? I just traded in my 14 ram with towing capacity 7750 for a 2019 ram rebel 1500 with 3.92 gear ratio and now I can tow 11340 with 1840 payload. I'm considered a 2500 but would not fit in garage. picking up new g23 on Wednesday. appreciate all the replies to this thread.
    No weight distribution hitch on mine

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